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What is a "red brick"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_brick_university One of 6 particular universities. A similar term in the USA would be something like Ivy League: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League
Given the way the City works, do you really want us to not include bonus?
Having read all comments, I'm somewhat lost. I was hired in London in 2008 on £37K, it was my first programming job after uni, I had clean resume. Today a competent beginner with a few web projects under his belt easily gets around £45K. I'm hiring developers for my startup – http://www.makersacademy.com – and I wish I had more applicants. I'm happy to pay £350-450/day for a decent Ruby dev and or around £60K permane…
Having read all comments, I'm somewhat lost. I was hired in London in 2008 on £37K, it was my first programming job after uni, I had clean resume. Today a competent beginner with a few web projects under his belt easily gets around £45K. I'm hiring developers for my startup – http://www.makersacademy.com – and I wish I had more applicants. I'm happy to pay £350-450/day for a decent Ruby dev and or around £60K permane…
I agree. My experience of folk I know in London is that even vague competence is going to get you £35-40k - and being actually good is going to get you a fair bit more than that. Hell - I live in bloody Dorset and I'd be expecting to pay at least £35k for a decent dev. I'm confused about what kind of work the 0-30k folk are doing and for whom. If I were in that group I'd be seriously thinking about: * Switching jobs…
Is that in USD, British Pounds or Euros? I think a poll with just numbers is quite worthless.
Is that in USD, British Pounds or Euros? I think a poll with just numbers is quite worthless.
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That almost makes German/Dutch wages seem good... (average wage for a just-graduated developer is around 35000 euros in both countries).
is that with or without the 13th Month
Sample size=1, I've found that the "idols" of the developer community in London work for gov.uk or the BBC. I respect both very much, but you can't optimize for "soft" values and cash at the same time. It's a bit tautological, but if you want to make a lot of money, you have to go do that. You can't optimize for a fun, "meaningful" (hugely subjective, obviously) job with short hours and expect the money to just come…
EDIT to add: Finally, obviously, contracting. If you have a couple of years of solid experience, you can make £500+/day. Add a good blog, a few conference talks, maybe a book and you can easily 50-100% to that. That's £110-220k/year, with 8 weeks off. With contracting you will end up with a lot more the 8 weeks of down time in the year unless you are in long-term engagements...
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EDIT to add: Finally, obviously, contracting. If you have a couple of years of solid experience, you can make £500+/day. Add a good blog, a few conference talks, maybe a book and you can easily 50-100% to that. That's £110-220k/year, with 8 weeks off. With contracting you will end up with a lot more the 8 weeks of down time in the year unless you are in long-term engagements...
Doesn't match my experience, or that of any of the contractors I know (in Perl, admittedly). I've never been a week out of a contract job when I wanted one...