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Re: Official Hacker News T-Shirt

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Post by mindcrime »

edw519 wrote: post #238
pg wrote: post #138

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I feel like I'm trapped in an HN parody. It's precisely because I want HN to be a site where people engage in meaningful discussion that I try to discourage people from upvoting the first dismissive comment they come across. Even discourage is probably too strong a word though. I feel like someone standing in the surf, trying to hold back a breaking wave with his hand. (I didn't answer his question because other user…

I feel like I'm trapped in an HN parody. Congratulations! We have a winner. You have just won first place in the crowd sourced competition for the front of V2.0 of the official Hacker News Tshirt. Honorable mention: Wear something people want. Correlation != clothesation. Fuck. That. Shirt. Take off this shirt and get back to work. Shirt early. Shirt often. Made from 100% down (votes). I clicked "threads" and got thi…

How about:

    What Problem Does This Solve?
    Who Would Pay Money For That?

Re: Official Hacker News T-Shirt

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Post by rikkus »

scoot wrote: post #157
petercooper wrote: post #140

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Not a bad idea, but be careful. You'll be liable to pay import VAT of 20% on an order over £15 in value and custom duties as well if the order is over £135 in value. So take this into account if taking orders or money from people, you might end up with a 20% VAT bill when they get delivered that purchasers may decide they don't want to pay.

Good point, thanks Peter. Lets try this: £12 per shirt including VAT, duty, and any VAT administration charge the shipping co. adds. Any excess will be openly donated to watsi.org, and any shortfall I'll cover. Email: iwantone@hntee.33m.co with color and size if you're in.

British people: Do this.

Re: Official Hacker News T-Shirt

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Post by mindcrime »

epochwolf wrote: post #304
Mahn wrote: post #152

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The problem is that if someone from HN were to start a news aggregator site competitor it wouldn't be long before they started looking for profiting posibilities (people reading HN like making companies, in case you didn't notice :-) ). At least HN doesn't run ads or has a "HN Gold" program (yet, this comment may backfire though, seeing how pg is reading the thread). I think we'll be fine though. YC doesn't really ow…

It's been done: https://lobste.rs/

It's also invite only, and I don't know about you, but I can't see the value in spending a lot of time trawling through there, looking to see if there's a name I recognize from HN, and then try to figure out if I know that person well enough from posting here to ask them for an invite. And that's even assuming people would use the same name on lobste.rs that they use here anyway.

Re: Official Hacker News T-Shirt

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Post by jessaustin »

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #239
ihuman wrote: post #175

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The problem is that people would abuse the downvote button and use it as a representation of "I disagree with you" is read of "this comment adds no value to the conversation."

Even with the current restrictions people still use it quite extensively as a "I disagree" button.

And the karma limit is intended to ensure that the people who take this quite expected action have good taste.

Re: Official Hacker News T-Shirt

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Post by hollerith »

kluge wrote: post #310
pg wrote: post #240

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More like I wasted a lot of time spelling out something that was already obvious. This is a bug in forums, not a feature, and one that has bitten me many times. You can't be concise on forums, because if you leave any possible room for misinterpretation, someone will reply with it.

That is true, but isn't it only revealing the problem that correct interpretation is not conveyed, not causing it? If it wasn't possible to reply, the same people would still hold the misinterpretation, but then the author wouldn't see it. Communication is hard.

PG described a process by which the most literal-minded participants -- those with abnormally low tolerance for ambiguity -- drag everyone down to their level. I would welcome measures that neutralize that process even if the negative consequence you describe comes to pass.

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Post by derefr »

kluge wrote: post #310
pg wrote: post #240

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More like I wasted a lot of time spelling out something that was already obvious. This is a bug in forums, not a feature, and one that has bitten me many times. You can't be concise on forums, because if you leave any possible room for misinterpretation, someone will reply with it.

That is true, but isn't it only revealing the problem that correct interpretation is not conveyed, not causing it? If it wasn't possible to reply, the same people would still hold the misinterpretation, but then the author wouldn't see it. Communication is hard.

Why is "100% clear communication" an assumed universal good? Some jokes are only funny because some people don't get them. And yet, this--as I might term it--"populist heartburn" at realizing one is in the not-getting-it majority, and demanding an explanation, ruins the fun of those who do.

Bob Dylan's "Ballad of a Thin Man" might be appropriate reading here. :)

Re: Official Hacker News T-Shirt

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Post by derefr »

jjb123 wrote: post #305
brk wrote: post #273

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I was going to post this elsewhere, but I guess I'll just drop it here... That's not what HN looks like to me. Why? Because like (I assume) most users that reached whatever the magic number is for a custom-color top bar, I've changed the default orange (a random shade of purplish in my case). I 'got' the design because of the description, but if I had seen it randomly on the street, I'm not sure I would have immediat…

who says the t-shirt you wear is/should be for the benefit of the random guy on the street?

Usually because random guys on the street see a lot more of the "logo area" of your t-shirt than you do (it's sort of outside of your regular visual field unless you're looking straight down or in a mirror). Though, admittedly, possibly-savvy coworkers see similar amounts of it. Depends which you spend more time around, I guess.
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