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Amazon is a large Anthropic shareholder (>5% of the cap table). I think it’s impossible to interpret the actions of their executives here without considering this information.
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I mean it's possible that I just haven't found the secret sauce or I'm running into the invisible guardrails and that people have much stronger jailbreaks than I do. However, I would not rule out openai involvement in all of this.
I was able to use Fable to generate PoC for several classes of vulnerabilities and I didn't observe the model refusing to engage in detailed analysis to come up with creative approaches, the very contrary. > I used a fork of oh-my-pi Why not use the leaked claude code source? Not that you really need it to execute the jailbreak
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I think you underestimate how many people actually care about mass shootings.
> I think you underestimate how many people actually care about mass shootings. Less than 1% of the population, that’s for sure. You remember the last protest about school shootings? Neither do I.
If you are looking around and saying that because people aren't waving sign on street corners, then nobody cares, then you have utterly missed a couple decades of dedicated efforts by many people working around these issues.
The fact that shootings still happen is tragic. But it is not because people are just shrugging and saying they don't care.
putting my old man cap on and I would like to weigh in on the US admin export control on Mythos. It does remind me of the mid-1990s when suddenly asymmetric cryptographic tools such as PGP became a reality and a wide usage possible due to the growing base of internet users. Governments (US, France…) did not understand how to regulate and banned export (and asked users to apply for a licence). I do see a strong parall…
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What good is advertising if they can't actually sell the product?
Customers (especially large ones) don't so much buy individual specific products, they buy into a company and its prospects. Customers don't want to chop and change. They want to lock in with the leader. This whole thing shrieks out that Anthropic is at the head of the pack, with the most capable models. It hardly matters in the customer's mind that today they can't buy this specific model.
It is hard to see being a new benefit for anthropic.
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The simple answer is that Trump has a stick up his ass against Anthropic and is also fond of stock market manipulation. No need to get too deep when it comes to dealing with that orange shmuck.
This is just another shakedown like with Tylenol etc, knock the product, lower the stock price and have a competitor hostile takeover, or get kickbacks
But I caution you against drawing conclusions from your hypothesis and calling it a day, instead of taking in the available data and using it to broaden your understanding of what's actually happening.
This could be many things: a shakedown, Trump's pettiness, marketing kayfabe, an actual government reaction to a very weaponizable technology, and so on.
But if you call it "just another shakedown" and go about your day, then you're doing yourself a disservice, because the story is still unfolding and we don't have all the facts.
You don't actually have the full story, so don't delude yourself into think you do.
Unfortunately even if this blocking is only temporary, a precedent has been set. The government will likely be more willing to target open source models in the future that they deem to be too powerful. A lot of open source AI infrastructure exists within reach of the US government.
"Typical Dem overreach and regulation! The nanny state!"
"Frontier models are expensive to create! Why should US companies continue to invest in them, if the government won't let them make sales! This is how China wins!"
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I was able to use Fable to generate PoC for several classes of vulnerabilities and I didn't observe the model refusing to engage in detailed analysis to come up with creative approaches, the very contrary. > I used a fork of oh-my-pi Why not use the leaked claude code source? Not that you really need it to execute the jailbreak
I don't think educational "proof of concept" code can be described as even loosely realistic cyber offense in this day and age. The Mythos preview paper claimed an ability to stage attacks in an end-to-end fashion and work around sophisticated defenses/mitigations, so something like this should be the relevant standard.
I still am struggling to understand why they informed the government about something that is known to be an issue in every LLM. There is no LLM that cannot be jailbroken, so unless this means that we have reached the absolute maximum publicly accessible US made LLMs are allowed to operate at with GPT 5.5, this is not grounded in any sane regulation attempt. Does anyone know what limits Fable 5 has overstepped in the…
The only reason I can see is because Amazon wanted something like this to happen. But I'm not sure what Amazon would gain from that, since they don't have their own competing frontier models.
Will Chinese models be allowed on the market… at all? Will startups be banned from training models of equivalent capacity?