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Pokémon Go Scans Trained the Navigation Tech for Military Drones

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lunchbucket wrote: post #291
Dylan16807 wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> in any way You can connect any two things into a sentence regardless of the state of the world. This is way off of where the problems actually are. Edit: Some people have downvoted this without giving a reason, but I'm going to double down. Any time you have disasters or large crimes, you can connect them to children and children's things. Thinking there's anything to learn about the specific fact that you can make…

It's silly to compare an arbitrary connection to a non-arbitrary connection and as if it makes the former arbitrary. You're doubling down on a category error.

This is a very arbitrary connection. The game took some pictures of the world. The world got damaged.

And pokemon go isn't actually a children's game in the first place, it's heavy on the nostalgia and at least a while ago 3/4 of the users were adults.

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gchamonlive wrote: post #295
Dylan16807 wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> in any way You can connect any two things into a sentence regardless of the state of the world. This is way off of where the problems actually are. Edit: Some people have downvoted this without giving a reason, but I'm going to double down. Any time you have disasters or large crimes, you can connect them to children and children's things. Thinking there's anything to learn about the specific fact that you can make…

> Any time you have disasters or large crimes, you can connect them to children and children's things. This time you have an actual connection, the state of the world notwithstanding. If you factor in the world however, with this many wars, I'd say it's pretty much linked, regardless of the way you assembled words to make it look like it doesn't, and doubling down doesn't make it less distant from reality.

It's linked, but it's always linked the same amount whether the world is doing well or doing poorly. It doesn't tell you anything about the state of the world to note that these situations exist. What tells you about the state of the world is how common they are.

Imagine someone seeing that the murder rate is not zero and using that to claim the world is worse than it used to be. That's not how it works, despite murder obviously being a bad thing.

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Post by ccppurcell »

rjmunro wrote: post #99
ccppurcell wrote: post #82

If you are looking for something to channel that energy into, you could help improve open street map using streetcomplete: https://streetcomplete.app/

Surely military drones will use OpenStreetMap data? Even the Russians and Iranians can use it for whatever purpose they like.

Everything you do online publicly is usable in principle. Might as well also be public good. And my understanding is that Pokémon go made use of the camera. The kind of data you add using street complete is like "does this crossing have a traffic light?"

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Post by hippietrail »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #113
pj_mukh wrote: post #111

As someone who works in this space, the headline is a bit of a stretch. The overlap in the locations of Pokemon Go Player data and any active Drone heavy theaters of war is a tiny sliver (or zero?). The military contractor (Vantar/Maxar) in question basically admits so but just "reserves the right" to use the data which is the political battle line ala Claude and DoD. This is mostly an ideological battle.

> overlap in the locations of Pokemon Go Player data and any active Drone-driven Theaters of War would be a tiny sliver Is Pokémon Go not played in the Middle East, India, Taiwan, Korea or Japan?

I was in Taiwan when it came out there. It was insanely popular. I was camping at some random place and it was crowded with random people and families even at 2am all collecting 'em all.

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Post by lunchbucket »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #321
lunchbucket wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's silly to compare an arbitrary connection to a non-arbitrary connection and as if it makes the former arbitrary. You're doubling down on a category error.

This is a very arbitrary connection. The game took some pictures of the world. The world got damaged. And pokemon go isn't actually a children's game in the first place, it's heavy on the nostalgia and at least a while ago 3/4 of the users were adults.

It's bizarre to me that you aren't acknowledging the context these remarks were made in, I don't understand where you're coming from at all. Like, you've seen what article this thread is discussing right...?

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Post by wvh »

pandoro wrote: post #141
wvh wrote: post #140

The moral question is if you've unknowingly contributed to war, death and destruction, or if you are actually helping drones to accurately find real targets – which hopefully are not innocent civilians but legitimate military targets.

At this point is there really a difference between death and destruction and "legitimate" military target? It's a slippery slope

It is a slippery slope. I'm just hoping that a more surgical drone strike against a weapons factory will create less victims than the blunt force of a ballistic missile aimed "in the general direction of".

In a way, technology could enable one party to "outwit" their opponent by taking away the means to wage war without causing random loss of life.

Re: Pokémon Go Scans Trained the Navigation Tech for Military Drones

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Post by Dylan16807 »

lunchbucket wrote: post #326
Dylan16807 wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a very arbitrary connection. The game took some pictures of the world. The world got damaged. And pokemon go isn't actually a children's game in the first place, it's heavy on the nostalgia and at least a while ago 3/4 of the users were adults.

It's bizarre to me that you aren't acknowledging the context these remarks were made in, I don't understand where you're coming from at all. Like, you've seen what article this thread is discussing right...?

The even more immediate context for this chain of comments is the article being pretty far off base, and that the people treating those videos like a database of location info are getting it completely wrong.

Also drones didn't flatten a city. You really have to ignore a lot of the details to make this connection strong.

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