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VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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Post by dbbk »

yencabulator wrote: post #310
olingern wrote: post #98

These acquisition announcements always leave me uneasy. There’s a lot of hand waving, “nothing will change and our roadmap will stay the same!” but we can all do basic math and understand that’s not how business works. As an aside, I have to use Cloudlare at work and it’s a pretty awful experience for the medium sized org I’m at. “Hostile UX” is a common complaint. Maybe they should invest money in competing with Ver…

Well, Voidzero already attempted to rugpull the Vite project into a commercial paid licensing for "Vite+" that they then had to back out of and release under MIT because it just didn't work out. I think Voidzero was already adrift without a plan and this acquihire is literally just that, new employment for the people behind it. Maybe Cloudflare will allow them to maintain oxc, but expect them to writing features for…

Voidzero's plan was Void their Vercel competitor

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Post by dbbk »

stackskipton wrote: post #129
freedomben wrote: post #126

> Before saying anything else, we want to make the most important thing clear: Vite, Vitest, Rolldown, Oxc, and Vite+ will stay open source, vendor-agnostic, and community-driven. Nothing about that changes. Appreciate them putting that so clearly. I am highly skeptical of acquisitions now because we've been burned so many times in the past. Time will tell if this stays true, but at least it's clearly on the record.…

>Would love to know if this is in contract/writing somewhere as part of the acquisition. Cloudflare would be insane to allow that provision in the contract or acquisition documents. So I would take that promise as "will stay open source, blah blah blah, for now...."

What would they benefit from taking it closed source? And how would that even work for a JavaScript toolchain?

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Post by firemelt »

true_religion wrote: post #187

Just for the record, NPM -> Microsoft Vite -> Cloudflare Bun -> Anthropic Turbopack -> Vercel Remix -> Shopify (I barely remember this one) Biome (formerly Rome) -> Indie but largely supported by Depot SWC -> Indie esBuild -> Indie I use RsBuild/RsPack which is ByteDance supported.

but why?

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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Post by nkohari »

fredoliveira wrote: post #243
nkohari wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is by choice, though? VoidZero was well-capitalized and could easily have continued to raise money for the foreseeable.

Could they? Under what business model? Maybe the numbers for the paid products just weren't there and they see this exit as a positive for the team?

It's an obvious partnership because Void Cloud was built on Cloudflare anyway, so having Cloudflare buying them directly just means that both companies don't need to carve out their own margin. Cloudflare is also happy to fund the work on Vite, Oxc, et al. while also having a more direct answer for Vercel and Next.js.

With all that said, I don't think we can extrapolate that their business wasn't doing well or that they couldn't have raised more money. Cloudflare probably just offered a good enough deal that it didn't make sense to try to grind it out.

What I really mean is that when M&A happens, it seems like a lot of people think the acquirer is the only one with any agency, and that's not true at all.

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