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Kindle loyalists scramble as Amazon turns page on old e-readers

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Re: Kindle loyalists scramble as Amazon turns page on old e-readers

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What I don’t get is why the publishing industry never got its act together, listened to customers and got its act together. Yes, like many industries I have worked in I can imagine that they are unable to cooperate because of petty greed and short-sightedness: they would rather have the whole market taken away from them than endure the possibility that some of their direct competitors get a small, temporary advantage…

I'm not very familiar with anti-cartel laws (in any country), but I wonder if there would be legal issues preventing publishing companies from working together in such a way even if they otherwise had wanted to? (Though even if that is the case, I'd still think they could have at least agreed on open standards to use, to prevent anyone like Amazon from creating vendor lock-in.) But Amazon had advantages from its size…

> I'm not very familiar with anti-cartel laws (in any country), but I wonder if there would be legal issues preventing publishing companies from working together in such a way even if they otherwise had wanted to?

Then all syndication services would have been banned, including Spotify, Netflix, and so on.

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I wonder if there's a KOReader oriented OS for the Kindle, to go beyond jailbreaking it (it's nice, but a bit clunky to me)... There seems to be an Android port for some models so it should be possible.

So there was: InkBox OS, mostly for Kobo but with some Kindle support, it became QuillOS (wirh the same focus on devices) but when Kobo went with secureboot the whole thing moved to the PineNote. But all of that is very outdated now...

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I'm not very familiar with anti-cartel laws (in any country), but I wonder if there would be legal issues preventing publishing companies from working together in such a way even if they otherwise had wanted to? (Though even if that is the case, I'd still think they could have at least agreed on open standards to use, to prevent anyone like Amazon from creating vendor lock-in.) But Amazon had advantages from its size…

> I'm not very familiar with anti-cartel laws (in any country), but I wonder if there would be legal issues preventing publishing companies from working together in such a way even if they otherwise had wanted to? Then all syndication services would have been banned, including Spotify, Netflix, and so on.

There definitely are ways that publishers could have avoided falling foul of anti-Cartel legislation (my question was about where the line is, ie if they did it legally would it actually benefit them), but...

Spotify and Netflix aren't owned or created by a syndicate of all the major publishers, so that's not actually a counter point. There's a huge difference legally speaking between a company negotiating with lots of rights holders to offer customers all of their content in one place, vs. those rights holders co-creating that platform and running it themselves.

(Not that the distributor has to be owned by a cartel of the rights holders to still abuse their position illegally, eg https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/blog/e-book-retailers-d... - it's just that the cartel aspect is the bit I had been talking about.)

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moved to kobo (the nice one with colour screen) with calibre web running behind a cloudflare tunnel, getting books direct through smallest publishers/authors. Adds the tiniest bit of friction in book acquisition but reading experience, battery life, everything else shits on my kindle experience (and I’ve owned every one).

What software do you use on the device itself? I recently got a Kobo Clara HD, but software support seems to be a big issue. On one hand, there's folks using the vendor's OS, which looks like an abandoned custom-made Linux distro, where compiling anything is a nightmare. It's not really made to be hackable, but just to read books purchased via their partners. OTOH, there's a near-mainline kernel, which works nicely,…

What custom software could you possibly want in an e-reader?

Like, in my mind is about as dumb as an electronic device gets. Load epubs, a few options for font size and margins, you're done forever.

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What software do you use on the device itself? I recently got a Kobo Clara HD, but software support seems to be a big issue. On one hand, there's folks using the vendor's OS, which looks like an abandoned custom-made Linux distro, where compiling anything is a nightmare. It's not really made to be hackable, but just to read books purchased via their partners. OTOH, there's a near-mainline kernel, which works nicely,…

What custom software could you possibly want in an e-reader? Like, in my mind is about as dumb as an electronic device gets. Load epubs, a few options for font size and margins, you're done forever.

I want to use it mostly to offload reading web articles (or RFCs) onto it, so I want a simple pipeline on my desktop that renders a web page into something e-reader friendly, and then sends it to the reader. I'm using something like Mozilla's readability to extract the article itself.

I don't intend to use the e-reader to displace paper books, I have no quarrel with those. I mostly want to displace "sitting on my desk, reading a multi-page article on a computer monitor".

It's custom software but still pretty dumb, doing most of its work in the background.

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Amazon's attitude towards its Kindle device customers is one of lofty disregard. Every time they announce new Kindle products, half of the comments are like "I hope they have buttons," "I hope they bring back the Oasis," etc. But they appear to exult in dashing the hopes of their customers, or at the very least they don't care about them at all. They've doubled down on no-key devices with stupid pens, pointless and p…

I bought a cheap Kindle 2 years ago (remember Amazon subsidizes these things) and never bought a single book from the Amazon store.

They totally should disregard me.

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They are — all non-flagships do still have headphone jacks, even the Pixel A lineup kept them for many many years after the mainline Pixel phones dropped them. And the reason most phones keep these is because wireless headphones are in the end luxury. They're not necessary, they're not even significantly better, but they're in the end a class symbol.

Earlier this year, the Guardian had a piece about the way in which wired headphones were now the status signifier among a certain cohort ...

You can buy a Bluetooth headset at Action for 20 euro. I'm sure wireless was a status symbol once but it hasn't been for a very long time...

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Amazon's attitude towards its Kindle device customers is one of lofty disregard. Every time they announce new Kindle products, half of the comments are like "I hope they have buttons," "I hope they bring back the Oasis," etc. But they appear to exult in dashing the hopes of their customers, or at the very least they don't care about them at all. They've doubled down on no-key devices with stupid pens, pointless and p…

14 years of support for a device is pretty incredible.

But really what does it need to do? Write some characters on a screen. If it could do that 14 years ago it can do it today.

It's not like ereaders have evolved to do full motion video and the text ones have become obsolete.

Luckily koreader works well on old kindles. I'm even running it on my new one now.

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They are — all non-flagships do still have headphone jacks, even the Pixel A lineup kept them for many many years after the mainline Pixel phones dropped them. And the reason most phones keep these is because wireless headphones are in the end luxury. They're not necessary, they're not even significantly better, but they're in the end a class symbol.

This very much depends on region Also I think the more serious issue is the SD card slot. The missing headphone jack is annoying, but you can work around it with an adapter. Not so for the card slot

You can work around the SD card just as "easily" as you can work around the card slot, as you can just always keep a usb-c sd card reader plugged into the phone.

Obviously, both of them are absolutely silly "solutions" to problems that wouldn't have been necessary in the first place.

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