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Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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Can someone in this thread who says “the kids must be wrong” give an actual optimistic case for AI? Because as far as I understand it, the “optimist” case for AI is that LLMs become God and wipe out human life as we know it entirely, and replace it with a transcendent post-human intelligence. And in the meantime, we’ll have a permanent underclass that will be kept alive on some kind of subsistence UBI. That seems to…

I'm more "the kids are showing healthy skepticism of corporate dystopia but AI is vital" camp, here is my argument:

1. Yes the risk of AI corporate/authoritarian dystopia is HUGE, we'll have to fight for our rights MANY times this century. Transcendental AI takeover is probably less of a risk than humans in power using armies of robots and Stasi-AI surveillance.

2. Our current economy is bs and the last century of 'relative prosperity' was a bit of luck + tech and population boom + globalist exploitation and massaging debt. We've tried variations of capitalism, socialism, communism, there doesn't seem to be a silver bullet.

3. AI is not like other tech, and tech does not 'create jobs', it creates business opportunities which up until now have always translated to jobs. We've never had a "drop-in replacement" for a human employee, it could replace anything from 40 to 99% of jobs.

Those are the risks, the potential rewards are:

- OpEx converted to CapEx making almost any kind of business extremely efficient

- Nobody has to spend weeks away from family or risking their health in dangerous or degrading jobs

- Extremely cheap housing and infrastructure with everything from mining to construction to maintenance automated. Fixing the broken window effect of rundown neighbourhoods and generally increasing quality of life

- Almost nobody needs to commute, or do all the other things around commuting, vastly reducing transport, congestion and pollution

- Food can be grown in better ways, even at home, with less mono-cropping, pesticides and waste. Your robot can weed by hand, work the land 24/7 and with the combined experience of millions of farmers, botanists etc

- Healthier society, no need for convenience food if your robot can cook and clean, and it can make far tastier traditional food than McDonalds

- Many products can be made at home or locally. Mass production favoured big dumb machines but a robot can build you a table exactly how you want it, with appropriate materials rather than commoditising everything down to shitty MDF off-gassing formaldyhide. You don't have time to pick through recycled wood - your robot does

- Our existing road network can have far higher capacity because barely anyone needs to commute and idiots don't hold up traffic or drive distracted. Streets aren't jammed with parked cars, taxis instantly have 20% extra capacity as they don't need to carry a driver. We may even get rid of or severely reduce traffic lights, not to mention safety

- Anything in your life that involves expensive repairs or buying more dumb shit is improved, every robot is a plumber with 100 million job experience, so many problems are solved with a machine that combines cheap labour and wide expertise

"Oh but humans need purpose" I just don't think 90% of jobs provide purpose. Purpose is raising kids, spending time with friends and family, working on some project, art, community improvement - it's absolutely insane we spend so much time working on bs.

Even just one of these things coming true is revolutionary - we have turned into fat commuter drones stress eating stuck in traffic thinking about some abstract spreadsheet report so far removed from reality but stealing our sleep and peace. AI isn't the problem here its corporate greed and concentration of power that AI could give

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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> The crowd is booing but they will never act. The only way to act is to not produce or consume (to the best of your ability) any slop, and be loud about it. We are being absolutely overrun with low-quality art, prose, and software, and making the production of such unprofitable (and even unfashionable) is the only reasonable action you can take.

That's the danger behind economy and society: we all must be useful in some way. We all have to find 'value' in some way. We take on 'roles' so we can contribute. Roles are necessary because we simply don't have time to be experts in everything. AI changes the way we contribute.

The metaphor I'll make here is this: It is much much cheaper for McDonald's to produce a hamburger then for some Michelin rated chef to produce fine cuisine. Society needs to have demand for fine cuisine or we'll all be stuck eating the cheapest, unhealthiest possible fast food.

You're right, we all don't have time to be experts in everything. But that doesn't mean experts aren't valuable, or that experts shouldn't exist.

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It's clearly coming from a claw agent. I'm sure they will post more :)

If true... On the one hand: they fooled me. On the other hand: hey, if the comments are that good, keep going?

Of course I don't have proof but this looks mighty suspicious: https://github.com/stellamariesays/Manifold/issues/54

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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Idk what people you interact with, but my personal sample of “normal people” post AI generated pics and videos in their WhatsApp status and adorn their homes with AI generated imagery for christmas. They may not actively use LLMs or even know what they are, but they’re satisfied with Google’s AI overview and they love using voice assistants. These aren’t people from any particular sphere I sought out or which self-se…

I live in San Francisco, and my personal sample of “normal people” think AI generated imagery looks like shit, abhor the proliferation of slop, and are doing their best to avoid this stuff at all costs.

You can prompt up some really cool commercial-grade art within the limitations of the models.

Getting more precision and consistency in the images requires additional technical configuration and actual artistic skill such that it more resembles using Photoshop and similar software. But what can be done with prompting is a lot more impressive than what can be done with rudimentary Photoshop skills and a big photo library to work from.

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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> that will be kept alive on some kind of subsistence UBI Setting aside whether a permanent underclass will be an outcome or not - is it not a bit incompatible to simultaneously believe that all jobs will be gone and that a subsistence UBI is necessarily very bad? The way I see it, if strong AGI really replaces all jobs, then even a subsistence level UBI (by the new post-AGI standards) will be a world with ubiquitous…

> It's basically like someone in the pre-industrial age complaining that the industrial revolution will lead to the permanent underclass of people who currently live on welfare in developed countries. But this is surely a wonderful outcome from the pre-industrial peasant's perspective - even poor people in the western world live better than middle age kings! Wow, it took more than a century to get to live better than…

> Wow, it took more than a century to get to live better than middle age kings. Do you think the people that lost their means to make a good living in 1800s care that we live so much better today ? It is incredible how so many tech people lack empathy for how regular people think or want to live.

I noticed that comes more from a place of not imagining themselves being the subject of the possible terrible consequences.

Many tech people think in abstract terms, they look back in history without thinking much about how the life of a normal person during a major transitional period was impacted, it's just a sequence of facts, not a collection of human stories.

It's sad because it completely detaches many of these folks from having empathy, yes, change is the only constant but if our aim is to progress as a species we should also be progressing on how to make inevitable changes less miserable for those impacted. I see a lot in tech people the thinking of technological advancement for the sake of technological advancement, not for building a better world for every human, humans tend to get in the way of major technological changes so in their minds they prioritise the advancements without caring much about the human aspect.

It's quite baffling to me because those are usually smart people, I'd expect smart people to have better holistic thinking.

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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In my experience there's a bit of a generation gap here (particularly outside the SF tech bubble). Parents excitedly gave e.g. giclée prints of AI-generated art of their adult children's pets to them as gifts last Christmas, but were met with muted-to-negative responses.

how much do of a redditor do you have to be to give a muted-to-negative response to your parents gifting you AI-generated art of your pet lol

It's on the same level as giving someone like, a box of chapsticks you picked up at Walgreens on the way over for Christmas dinner. No effort or thought, not really worth anyone's time, the giftee's or the gifter's.

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I have many times now searched Google for an error message or similar and either gotten no results or been unable to get it to search for what I actually told it to search for instead of some vaguely similar but completely unhelpful phrase. The LLMs will find a link to a bug tracker or stack overflow. It’s crazy how much worse Google search results are now than they used to be.

> It’s crazy how much worse Google search results are now than they used to be. I could not agree more. Each time I do a google search, I feel like I've stepped into a severe reality distortion field. The results are simply WORTHLESS. It's not just that the AI summary at the top answers the wrong question, but the sequence of hits thereafter wander off into the weeds almost immediately. I routinely have to constrain…

> Frankly, I think I'm going to have to MOVE AWAY FROM GOOGLE to a subscription-based search service just to get any useful search results again.

I would absolutely do this, but the only subscription search service i know about is Kagi, which is a bit too AI-forward for my taste. I wish there was a way i could subscribe to "google but 2007 google but with updated results"

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> What’s the logic here Tenuous connection between unrelated topics to fit them into larger ingroup/outgroup dynamics is the junkfood of persuasion tactics. Bad for you but addictive anyway. If you look for it you'll see it all the time.

"If you don't like AI, you're a nazi."

"This AI was built by a woman, don't you support their cause?.."

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If by “conservatives” you mean the Vance/Thiel/Yarvan crowd, sure.

Yes, the new face of conservatism

A literal network of child traffickers, fraudsters, traitors, religious lunatics, and foreign agents brought to us by rich assholes like Eric Schmidt.

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Conservatives loves AI because they see it as it is: not a technology, but a political framework to force their ideology on everyone AI is first and foremost a political artefact: https://tante.cc/2026/04/21/ai-as-a-fascist-artifact/

I am no fan of the tech bros, but this is a trash heap of an article.

First of all, it's ultra ironic that someone who is supposedly critical of big tech uses woke terminology ("marginalized people"). Big corpos basically created wokism: Thousands of Employee Resource Groups busy with "marginalized people-issues" are far more preferable to unions.

And this example of western "fascism" is peak hypocrisy:

"Ask an image generator for a picture of two people kissing and you most often get a heterosexual couple, often white. Because that’s what the training data looks like. That makes “AI” perfect for creating the form of idealized, fictional “past” that fascists love to allude to"

Ask anyone on the street in a "non-white" country to draw a couple, and your chances to get a picture of a heterosexual one would be probably greater than what ChatGPT would put out. AI generators regularly putting out pictures of what a typical CCC-lecturer looks like today, THAT would be pure western imperialism.

"People in power, people with money – most of them men – get to make the decisions."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIBgrM4WAAAoqDw.jpg

Today's fighters against big tech are themselves completely enshrouded in the worldview that big corpos created in the first place.

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