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Amazon workers under pressure to up their AI usage are making up tasks

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Re: Amazon workers under pressure to up their AI usage are making up tasks

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I've heard similar stories from AWS and other non-AWS FAANG employees. All of the token leaderboards have a "this doesn't count toward your performance review" disclaimer, but there's an implied nudge nudge, wink wink after that statement. One person I've talked to has someone in their org who is running GasTown and chews through tokens 24/7. They don't contribute very much, but they're comfortably in the #1 spot.

Yeah my manager at my 400 people company is one of those. He runs gas town and his agents bump things here and there throughout the codebase and he has like 50 commits a day. Compat versions, formatting, stuff like that. But the thing is, the problem is the person, not the technology. He was already like this before LLMs. He would "refactor" repos into smaller repos, and all of a sudden all of the code has his name.…

I would leave.

Re: Amazon workers under pressure to up their AI usage are making up tasks

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It’s preposterous, companies are blindly funding slop and the product is fool’s gold.

It's the state of modern capitalism. Money must flow from one entity to another even if nothing of tangible value is produced. The flows of money prove the growth of both businesses.

what kind of metric should we use to filter out that bullshit?

dollarhours?

Re: Amazon workers under pressure to up their AI usage are making up tasks

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post #24

I've heard similar stories from AWS and other non-AWS FAANG employees. All of the token leaderboards have a "this doesn't count toward your performance review" disclaimer, but there's an implied nudge nudge, wink wink after that statement. One person I've talked to has someone in their org who is running GasTown and chews through tokens 24/7. They don't contribute very much, but they're comfortably in the #1 spot.

Yeah my manager at my 400 people company is one of those. He runs gas town and his agents bump things here and there throughout the codebase and he has like 50 commits a day. Compat versions, formatting, stuff like that. But the thing is, the problem is the person, not the technology. He was already like this before LLMs. He would "refactor" repos into smaller repos, and all of a sudden all of the code has his name.…

Sounds like an actual psychopath.

Re: Amazon workers under pressure to up their AI usage are making up tasks

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Moving up is 100% being likeable.

Likability helps you move up, competency keeps you there. The role of Likability in moving up is overstated.

Really? Because I've met a lot of incompetent "leaders" that failed upwards because of their likeability.

Re: Amazon workers under pressure to up their AI usage are making up tasks

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I've been noticing how our economy keeps getting more Soviet as it becomes more top-down. We basically have central planning now with all the pathologies inherent in that system, but unlike the soviets we just have a bunch of guys who happened to get rich or bribe the right people running our GOSPLAN.

Yeah, the stories I've heard from Meta are very Soviet-coded. Like, trying to exceed the plan but not too much, because then the new plan would be hopelessly unachievable and you'd be punished for not meeting the insane expectations.

Literally Stakhanovism.

Re: Amazon workers under pressure to up their AI usage are making up tasks

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Moving up is 100% being likeable.

Yes, with the caveat that the 30% work allocation counts toward likability. You can be friendly, charming, well-spoken, fun, etc., but if you fail to deliver and make work for other people, cause your coworkers frustration, and make your manager look bad, you're not going to move up. You will be able to coast for a while though, as managers have a hard time firing people they personally like. It's ultimately a combin…

Your last statement is exactly right. Communication matters most when you're dealing with cross-org concerns and those that master it are usually the more friendly and pleasant ones. This is something I wish more people understood. I even sometimes fall into the latter even though I strive for the former.

Re: Amazon workers under pressure to up their AI usage are making up tasks

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Lots of people reporting their "I had to use up my tokens, so I burned them on worthless stuff" stories. Incredible thing to do in a climate emergency. Push harder guys, maybe we can hit 3C warming? This reminds me of the story of how the USSR nearly made whales extinct to meet a quota for whale meat that nobody wanted to eat.

> USSR nearly made whales extinct USSR barely accounted for 15% of the world caught amount (with Japan as the leader). > that nobody wanted to eat unsubstantiated.

see https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/06/history-of-sovie...

and https://www.i-deel.org/blog/mass-killing-for-no-reason-the-p...

Re: Amazon workers under pressure to up their AI usage are making up tasks

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Not just Amazon, too. It feels like all of big tech (and some smaller firms) have simultaneously gone insane. Imagine if your CEO woke up one day and told the company: "We need to encourage travel spending. Please book as many business trips as you can, and spend as much money as possible. Fly first class to our satellite offices! Take limos instead of Ubers! Eat at fine restaurants! Make sure you are constantly trav…

The most important part being:

"Because we FEEL this will make you more productive and we will make more money!"

No evidence but more Lines of Code...

Re: Amazon workers under pressure to up their AI usage are making up tasks

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It seems like a natural result. People have been trying to use dashboards / metrics to roll up / indicate how well teams and individuals have been doing for a long time. Therefore, "part 1" was already in place. Now, something even easier to track is available (token usage). So, just throw token usage on the dashboard and tell people that higher is better - what other outcome would you possibly expect?

> dashboards / metrics to roll up / indicate how well teams and individuals have been doing for a long time I'm actually a little curious about how long it has been. Bad managers have always prioritized irrelevant metrics, of course, but I have a feeling (backed by no data, just vibes) that management in general crossed a point of no return as soon as "data-driven" became a cross-industry buzzword. Like, I vaguely re…

"Data driven" essentially means "scalar driven". There is nothing wrong with it if your chosen scalar is a proxy for anything that matters. Of course, usually no one can explain this mapping.

Re: Amazon workers under pressure to up their AI usage are making up tasks

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any plans for a distributed deployment via cloudflare works. I'm not sure this thing is powerful enough for my use case.

Yeah, lots of enterprise features in the works, but first i need to raise money at a $1B+ valuation (this might seem high for a project that started 4 hours ago, but it's actually very low for the project that will soon be the #1 consumer of tokens on the planet)

You got four hours of Claude Code usage without hitting a rate limit???
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