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Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by GJim »

TRiG_Ireland wrote: post #313
GJim wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> that's pretty funny seeing how allies of the USA are constantly hostile toward Americans at every turn 457 British solders dead in Afghanistan supporting US operations beg to differ. Mate, seriously, step away from the propaganda and pay attention to what is happening to your democracy. Then you might understand why your allies are losing trust.

It should be a matter of shame, not pride, to the British that they followed a jingoistic US into a needless war in Afghanistan which achieved nothing but much senseless death.

It was.

The 2003 protests against the war in Afghanistan were the biggest in UK history. Approximately 1 Million people (1 in 60 of the UK population) made their way to London to protest, and hundreds of thousands protested in other cities on the day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_February_2003_Iraq_War_prot...

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by flumpcakes »

chasd00 wrote: post #209
TrackerFF wrote: post #49

For the past days I've been participating(albeit over Teams) in a conference relevant to my industry (intel), basically startups and established companies showcasing their products to a closed audience of EU gov. officials. One thing I noticed right away, is that all companies were asked "Can we fully host this from within EU or our country" from the various people in audience. Every single one. Many of the startups…

this is good, there's money to be saved in many many cases with self hosting. Cloud was supposed to save money but it's gotten so overdone that now companies have dedicated devops teams just like they use to have dedicated sysadmin teams. I think you can take the opensource paas's out there and selfhost something internal that covers 75-70% of your use case at a fraction of the cost of aws/gcp/azure.

The price of hardware (DELL, HP), and the price of enterprise software (VMWare, Nutanix, etc.) has increased an insane amount in the last 12 months. In our case some of the services it has been as much as 6x. Hardware quotes are rising 10-20% per week. Delivery dates are months out.

It has become so bad that we're considering moving to the cloud for our on-premise workloads. Only problem is some of the cloud providers in the areas we operate from have run out of compute.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by nyeah »

embedding-shape wrote: post #282
rapnie wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's face it. Trump 2 is about dismantling democracy. The administration radiates hostility and aggression to anything democratic. In the new national security policy the EU is the adversary of the US. If that isn't a wake-up call.

> Trump 2 is about dismantling democracy Seems strange to me that not everyone, including republicans, aren't aware of this, when he's pretty outspoken about not wanting any more elections, and how "if you vote for me this time, it'll be the last time you have to vote". If a presidential candidate anywhere else was openly talking about wanting to remove elections and democracy in the country (not to mention triggered…

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Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by gib444 »

BaudouinVH wrote: post #302

European-based alternative to github : https://codeberg.org/ The hub for european alternatives : https://european-alternatives.eu/

I'll preface this with a statement that as a European I want European alternatives to succeed, and MS-owned GitHub to shrivel and disappear.

But in case anyone from Codeberg reads this, IMO landing and signup pages need a lot of improvements:

> Codeberg is a non-profit, community-led effort that provides services to free and open-source projects, such as Git hosting (using Forgejo)

OK, so do I register for Codeberg or Forgejo? Do I need to click through to Forgejo (it's a hyperlink)? Do I care it's Forgejo?

"Software development, but free!" Free is the biggest selling point? Well GitHub is free too. WHY should I sign up?

Why is there no signup email address on the homepage like GitHub?

Why is the Register CTA off to the side, looking like a header instead of a button?

Why no screenshots of the Codeberg (Forgejo?) UI / wowing me with features? (None on the Forgejo homepage either)

Why is the signup behind that Anubis anime girl AND I need to enter a CAPTCHA after passing that?

> Confirm Password

That's extra friction and AIUI an outdated UI practice.

> We are planning to drop the captcha by improving moderation and spam detection. (state: March 2025).

OK...it's been over a year.

> Using Codeberg to spread SEO spam, malware, links to IPTV services ("tvbox") or pirated content will result in an immediate ban with no prior warning.

Too many words, pushing the "Register" button even further down. Just put it in the Terms of Service

Just copy these things from GitHub, it's not that hard. Right now it looks like a conference registration landing page or something

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Post by Oxodao »

jorisw wrote: post #208
rc_kas wrote: post #69

I switched to Protonmail a month ago. It is patently inferior to gmail. Every day I get annoyed by some weakness in the UI that google had apparently just always solved without me ever having to think about it. For example, reading long email chains in the proton UI is horrific. I don't know what google did that made it natural to read and proton does so badly, but it is painful to read these long chains of emails. A…

I'll never understand why people insist on using web based email. Just install your favorite desktop + mobile mail apps and you're fine. If that can't be done with Protonmail, and you want to move your email out of the US, suggest FastMail, based in Australia.

It can be done with proton, or at least it used to be possible (Not sure, didn't check in a while) thanks to their bridge. A small local software you'd run that decrypt everything and provides a local imap server with the decrypted content

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by xyzelement »

Want to state up-front, I am a dual citizen: an EU member and the US, and I live in the US. So I hope this gives my view some credibility as being grounded in the dual perspective.

The sentiment we're seeing in this story/comments and thematically is EU's desire to distance from the US - sure in infrastructure - but more so in identity. Which on the high-level I think is a great goal (ie, Europe should have European identity) but is incredibly risky and I am not sure is well thought out, though I could be wrong.

We can say that since 1950s the US and Europe had a familial relationship with the US being a bit of the parent despite being younger. That manifested in everything from protection (US bases in Europe, NATO), money flow, and culture flow. Since the 1950s, America did not become more European but Europe became more American.

Today we're in the adolescent stage of this familial relationship - Europe wants to move out of the house and perhaps even pay for its own cell-phone plan and that could be wonderful because if that leads to a legitimately stronger and more robust Europe, that's great.

But there's risk. Sometimes when the adolescent moves out of the house, they blossom into the fully manifested version of themselves. Other times they fall in with a bad crowd or fail to deal with their internal problems - and whither. It's easy to tell daddy-US to fuck off, it's much harder to not slide into the clutches of Russia and China in the next decade or two, or to deal with the internal demographic crisis.

What worries me for Europe is that it is trying to "distance" more than its trying to "grow." I don't hear people talk about a Europe that's strong, that leads, that innovates - in other words, the motivation is still about the US (just in a negative sense) not about Europe itself and that's not a good sign.

I still don't sense a true vibe of resurgence coming out of my native continent. Difficult problems you've always had tend to come to a head once you actually move out of your parents house. And while it's great (or at least cute) that you can switch to a European e-mail provider that's very far from what it actually takes to survive and thrive as a country in the long run. Hope it pans out.

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