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Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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After all the surveillance capitalism abuses over the last 2-3 decades of Web, it's a little late to be pushing back, but... should we start shunning individuals from companies who implement this? Whether it's from companies that create the tech, or companies that use it. In the orgy of money, we've had a kind of industry-wide sociopathic convention of individual engineers considering it perfectly OK to further surve…

I agree, wholeheartedly - lets get a list of the google engineers who worked on this. What do you propose we do with it?

I had more the thought like being skeptical of anyone who would take a job at company Foo or stay there, when they tell you. To me that seems preferable to trying to -- what risks devolving into -- a witch hunt of fall guys (persons), and doxxing people.

I think we are already starting to have that with a couple more infamous other companies in the news the last year: if someone goes to work there, I suspect a lot of people are going to think what is wrong with you, since you must know that company does very harmful things,

Maybe it's time to start wondering that about anyone who'd work for a lot of additional companies?

(I actually had a recruiter recently who was pitching a startup, and the headline featured the "ex-" pedigrees of the founders, including an especially infamous company. I figured any company touting that pedigree as a selling point is probably a bad fit for me. I thanked the recruiter, but said that infamous company as selling point probably isn't a fit. The recruiter seemed to not only understand, but to agree with my vague sentiment about that pedigree company.)

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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You can still use the audio captcha, but I’m not sure how long that’ll be around.

Google will incur serious lawsuits if they remove that accessibility aspect.

They'll keep it, but require TPM in each ear.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Felt same way about GrapheneOS but a few friends set it up so i gave it a try. It is easy to install and use. As evidence, I gave my 70 year old father one and he loves it.

When my friend was telling me about GrapheneOS I was thinking back to the old days of android custom roms, all the bugs and bullshit, the time I couldn't dial out to 911 because my custom ROM crashes when I did, or other issues. So I gave it a pass. However he's been on it now for months and every time he shows me something on it I get a little more jealous. Everything seems to be working fine, including e.g. bank ap…

Breathlessly awaiting the upcoming Motorola/Graphene crossover phone.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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archive.is just asked me for a QRcode scan, I'm so ashame of that crap (it's behind Cloudflare) , forcing website visitors to KYC? Are you guys insane!? the web is ruined if you push for this, this is millions of websites that will suddenly force KYC? What...the...f https://ibb.co/X9Q6Y84 By KYC, obviously it's because there is very few non-criminal ways to have a SIM without KYC and get a Google account for Playstor…

I just tried using archive.is on my non-degoogled phone using IronFox instead of Chrome and could not pass the recaptcha. Actually it presented me the mobile attestation on second try, but I was able to switch to images again. But I am also unable to pass that one with the tracking protections built into the browser. Hopefully some 'serious' website starts using this so I can bomb their customer support.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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As someone that uses AI agents, this makes me want to install a browser plugin for "public windows" that just archives everything I see, and then farms out clicks of content that are missing from those sites. The result of this would be to upload it all to a bot-friendly alternative to archive.org.

That exists! Check out Hoardy Web. https://oxij.org/software/hoardy-web/ Its whole point is undetectable archiving because it just saves what your browser already sees.

Nice, I understand it is similar to ArchiveBox + its web extension.

Now to be honest, while it's optimal to archive pages from you browser view I am not sure I want a random web extension to be in everything I see from a security point of view.

I would rather have a local proxy doing it. Maybe something like the InternetArchive warcproc [0]. Haven't tried yet.

- [0] https://github.com/internetarchive/warcprox

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Sites that use reCAPTCHA/Turnstile/etc. have already been broken for me for years now due to neverending captcha/refresh loops. My ISP regularly changes everyone's IP, and I apparently share an ISP with people who suck, so I get flagged just trying to do all sorts of normal things. Some examples: - I've never bought anything from Etsy but I'm somehow banned from even viewing their site at all. - Discord immediately b…

> I just take my business elsewhere...

Mars? /i

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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I would love to see someone challenge this as an anti-trust violation. Google is using its market power (as the provider of reCAPTCHA) to actively prevent devices that don’t use Google Play Services from competing effectively.

They're only doing that because the EU currently doesn't want to antagonize US any more with their tech fines. Noticed how there hasn't been any as of recently?

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/10/google-meta-big-tech-6-billi... :

> April 2025: Apple fined €500 million for failing to comply with "anti-steering" obligations. Meta fined €200 million under the Digital Market Act for requiring users to consent to sharing their data with the company or pay for an ad-free service.

> December 2025: X fined €120 million under the Digital Services Act for breaching transparency obligations.

(Sure, not this year, but that's pretty recent by most standards. And not sure if they're still being contested and unpaid)

And recently, Google is working with the EU to avoid a fine: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-06/google-ma...

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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I don't know why reclaimthenet hasn't embraced the obvious answer: Simply create a new smart device operating system with a fully disentangled cosmos of programs, libraries, APIs, app SDKs, hardware partners, drivers, trust networks, carrier agreements, app stores, documentation, conferences...

and that is gonna be funded by who? anyone who is gonna fund that is gonna want their slice of the pie. we need regulation to keep big tech in line

Ideally it would be funded by the personal wealth of the people who've profited from the current situation.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Stop visiting sites and using services that use reCAPTCHA. Problem solved.

Stop visiting sites and using services that use reCAPTCHA. Problem solved. No. Bigger problem created, since there are innumerable government, health care, and educational web sites that use reCAPTCHA. I'm not going to give up reading the test results from my doctor because of some simplistic ideologue decides that it's "problem solved."

At least in my country (Poland) you should be able to make a pretty bug fuss and resulting in them fixing it, if indeed one of ego services made you leak all your data to Google.

People do care about such things.

I hope the same is true in other EU countries.

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