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Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by neilv »

grey-area wrote: post #69
_pdp_ wrote: post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

Perfect for spammers, scammers and domain squatters, who can now automate their activities even more. Can’t think of any other uses for this given the current state of LLM ‘agents’, though I can’t wait for the next report of something like ‘openclaw registered 1000 domains for me without asking and now cloudflare won’t refund me’.

> Perfect for spammers, scammers and domain squatters, who can now automate their activities even more.

Buy why do this, unless you're in the business of arming both sides of a conflict?

(With a side bonus of designing a defense product in such a way that you reverse much of the ground that was gained with "HTTPS everywhere", to give you centralized cleartext access to much of the Internet traffic.)

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by grey-area »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #319
pixel_popping wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree frankly, as the next wave is clearly fully autonomous businesses.

Who do you sell to when there are no more humans??

Apparently Cloudflare have decided they'll sell to the agents instead.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by tiffanyh »

xena wrote: post #296
tiffanyh wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Super helpful. If you don't mind me asking, why are CLI so popular for agent use - as opposed to just raw APIs? Sorry if this is a naive question.

AI models have better tool latching on a `bash` tool than they do MCP tools.

Would you mind explaining more. Sorry, I'm not following but find your comment super interesting.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by [deleted] »

neom wrote: post #257
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Any business can be run in a shady manner if the human decided. No kidding. > One fully automated business I think could exist and might be useful is apartment/condo rental. We're starting strong on the category of businesses that generate no actual value and just scrape an amount of value out of existing transactions that would've happened anyway, i.e., rent-seeking. But good for you, you can now artificially shri…

So basically you didn’t ask your original question in good faith. Got it. Thanks for wasting my time.

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Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by _se »

loeber wrote: post #304
weird-eye-issue wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes unless you have a very very very good reason it's always best to just file a basic LLC in the state you are a resident of. Only costs a few hundred dollars at most and doesn't really complicate taxes

This is totally false, sorry. Delaware entities are the standard. Delaware corporate law is better understood than any other by a long shot. Dealing with a random non-Delaware LLC is usually a hint that your counterparty is a rube.

Confidently incorrect, the best kind of incorrect.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by arian_ »

The infrastructure for agents to act is scaling way faster than the infrastructure for anyone to verify what they did. We don't let humans open bank accounts without audit trails. Agents autonomously creating accounts and deploying to production should have at least the same bar.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by TheSoftwareGuy »

ectospheno wrote: post #311
firefoxd wrote: post #25

The agent starts a phone call, listens to the person on the line, analyzes which fraud bucket they fall into, and start the process. While they are on the phone with the agent, it buys a domain relevant to the victim, the agent codes and deploy the website specially catered to them and the fraud bucket. Collect payment, destroy the website, redirect the domain to google.com. no need to start a new call because you ha…

It is amazing to me that people still answer their phone. If it isn’t my wife or kids then my phone has a silent ringtone. If your voice mail doesn’t successfully transcribe to text then I delete it without listening. I check my postal mail since mail fraud is the only thing still taken seriously by anyone.

Is mail fraud really taken seriously? after I bought my house I got dozens of letters every few days that appeared (or tried to appear) from my lender warning of "FINAL NOTICE call this number about your mortgage!!!!!". The phenomenon is apparently so common and well known that my realtor, the seller's realtor, and my lender ALL warned me about these letters.

I feel like it should be easy for the postal inspectors or to go after these, if they cared. Just gather up some of these letters from someone who just bought a house (seems to be public record when someone buys a house, that's how the scammers know when to target someone). Then just call the number in the letter, trace the call and arrest whoever is there.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by abustamam »

_pdp_ wrote: post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

> I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused. It is definitely not something a developer will use.

Stripe Atlas has actually been around for quite a while, from like 2016. It's a quick start business platform for startups. HN discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11166417

So correct in that it's not something intended for developers. It's intended for entrepreneurs (whether or not they are developers)

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by Computer0 »

grey-area wrote: post #69
_pdp_ wrote: post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

Perfect for spammers, scammers and domain squatters, who can now automate their activities even more. Can’t think of any other uses for this given the current state of LLM ‘agents’, though I can’t wait for the next report of something like ‘openclaw registered 1000 domains for me without asking and now cloudflare won’t refund me’.

When I am searching for a cool domains to buy I script everything except buying

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by abustamam »

loeber wrote: post #304
weird-eye-issue wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes unless you have a very very very good reason it's always best to just file a basic LLC in the state you are a resident of. Only costs a few hundred dollars at most and doesn't really complicate taxes

This is totally false, sorry. Delaware entities are the standard. Delaware corporate law is better understood than any other by a long shot. Dealing with a random non-Delaware LLC is usually a hint that your counterparty is a rube.

How much did the State of DE pay you for this post? :)
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