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iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by bombcar »

pseudalopex wrote: post #318
jqpabc123 wrote: post #314

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https://www.apple.com/shop/product/mxcl3ll/a/magic-keyboard-... https://pfeiffertheface.com/why-is-there-no-backspace-key-on... https://www.macworld.com/article/672671/how-to-forward-delet...

My 1st comment said Apple's keyboards have keys marked delete or a symbol where other keyboards have keys marked backspace, delete, or a symbol. And these keys had the same utility. bombcar said some Apple keyboards had a delete key which did not delete the character before the cursor and not a key which deleted the character before the cursor. The 1st page showed Apple's keyboards had keys marked delete or a symbol…

The Apple confusion started much, MUCH earlier - see https://68kmla.org/bb/threads/backspace-vs-delete-a-topic-on...

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by yieldcrv »

red369 wrote: post #297
yieldcrv wrote: post #78

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long hold to re-arrange your rearrange what your default card is - but to the bottom of the stack - is dumb

This one seems harder to get right to me. The cards are stacked so that the card further down the screen is the top of the stack (the card overlap indicating which is in front of which). I would guess this was done because if you can only see part of the cards behind, seeing the top of the obscured card is more useful than seeing the bottom. I could be missing something, but where there is no perfect solution, I want…

Appeal to authority fallacy

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by red369 »

jasomill wrote: post #278
thedougd wrote: post #225

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I didn't know I could do that, so I just gave it a try. First instinct, double tap the side button to open Wallet. Couldn't rearrange the cards there. So,I opened Settings app and couldn't rearrange the cards there. Finally, I opened the Wallet app and found I could rearrange cards there, though there's no visual indicators that I can. I accidentally changed my default card on the first attempt.

The fact that the double-click shortcut opens the Wallet app in a functionally limited but visually identical mode is terrible UI design.

I find it very strange - I don’t really know what to make of it.

I have the wallet shortcut in my control centre. If I use it while on the Home Screen, I end up in the wallet app where I can rearrange and change settings for the cards. If I swipe down the Notification Centre, on my still unlocked phone, and then also swipe down the control centre, and then use exactly the same shortcut, I now end up in the “double-click to pay” version of the wallet, with no rearranging.

Sometimes there seem to be two different apps - the transition to the full app is a sideways transition, while the double-click version slides down from the top of the screen.

However, if I am in the full wallet app, with rearranging options available, and I double-click, it changes the wallet app to the double-click to pay version with no transition.

I notice I am confused!

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by red369 »

yieldcrv wrote: post #322
red369 wrote: post #297

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This one seems harder to get right to me. The cards are stacked so that the card further down the screen is the top of the stack (the card overlap indicating which is in front of which). I would guess this was done because if you can only see part of the cards behind, seeing the top of the obscured card is more useful than seeing the bottom. I could be missing something, but where there is no perfect solution, I want…

Appeal to authority fallacy

Do you mean that I am falling into that?

Quite possible! Could you explain? I don’t see it yet.

I guess I just think of it as where there isn’t an obvious correct answer, best not to criticise another choice.

Especially when there seem to be inexplicable choices out there which should be criticised with higher priority!

I’ve just been participating in a conversation about the two different functionalities of the wallet app.

That seems clearer to me as an unnecessarily confusing experience.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by dfunckt »

troupo wrote: post #315
dfunckt wrote: post #266

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Wait, what? Double-clicking will prompt for Face ID to open your default card for oayment, and from there you swipe down to see the stack — which I suppose is the screen you’re looking for.

But you cannot edit, add, or remove anything in this stack, and there's no way to go from it to the wallet. You have to close it, and open the actual wallet app which will show a slightly different view, and more items

You’re right, I never noticed!

This actually also explains why I couldn’t change my default card the other day - I must have been in that screen that opens from the button shortcut.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by dec0dedab0de »

larkost wrote: post #282
lode wrote: post #154

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The problem is that those are treated almost like an app, you need a $99/year developer certificate to publish them. Many third party ticketing solutions venues and events use do support this, but for instance if you want to sell tickets for a party and self-host, you need another external integration, or a developer account. Generating a PDF with a QR code, and publishing an .ics file is essentially free.

My guess is that the are requiring this in order to reduce the amount of fraud there (I am sure there still is some, but...). Apple really does not want to be involved when someone can't get into the Taylor Swift concert that they paid some scammer a lot of money for the Apple Wallet ticket they got. Having an authenticated developer account at least provides some level of speed bump to scammers, and a better startin…

There are many events that are still sending you a pdf file with your tickets. Until fairly recently, that included major venues too.

The charitable explanation is that the wallet is designed for credit cards, and tickets were an after thought. Though I suspect it is really Apple trying to keep a walled garden, just like they always have.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by ubersnack »

dstroot wrote: post #234
Terretta wrote: post #82

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The same is true in a physical card wallet. An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store. It's all co-opting "familiar" actions for them, not tech-like, which means they can do it. The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. Everyone in their 70s and up seems to be given pause…

> “The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button” So true! Also my 84 year old mother can never figure the difference between a web site and an app. If I could add a home button and solve the second issue her life would be much better.

I’ve just tried creating a shortcut with the action “Go to Home Screen”, and then assigning the action button to that in Settings -> Action Button - seems to work pretty well so far, hopefully this could work for them as well

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by mbishop »

Terretta wrote: post #82
kilian wrote: post #71

The wallet app UI is the peak of Apple's 'single 20y/o in sf' design. Anyone that has multiple card from the same bank (because, say, you have a personal account and a shared account with your partner) has to do the "pick between the two identical looking top 20px of cards" dance every time they use Wallet to pay for something. It is mind-boggling that the current UI persists.

The same is true in a physical card wallet. An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store. It's all co-opting "familiar" actions for them, not tech-like, which means they can do it. The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. Everyone in their 70s and up seems to be given pause…

> The same is true in a physical card wallet.

But I can write on my cards with a pen to visually make them unique.

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Post by baby »

_diyar wrote: post #312
baby wrote: post #307

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I switched to Android for a year last year and moving back to iOS was really painful. A lot of things make so much more sense in Android. I really miss being able to manage notifications granularly directly from the notifications for example, or quickly copy/paste many previous things from my clipboard directly from the keyboard, but what I miss the most is the AI integration, using AI is so painful on iOS

What made you move back to iOS?

I have another list of issues with Android, but the killer was how good iOS battery and how good iPhones are as physical products. But I miss a lot of things on Android now too (like the folding screen)
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