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GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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Post by zdragnar »

nonameiguess wrote: post #302
madamelic wrote: post #289

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I am continually tripped out by the fact when I was 16, I didn't have a 'smartphone' beyond a Windows Mobile 6 phone that had no internet on it. Now, I have this high-resolution shiny object that can near instantaneously get any information I want along with _streaming HD video to it_ *anywhere*. 15 years even feels like a stone age. I can't fathom what it has to feel like people in their 60s and 70s.

I'm not quite 60, but it's always interesting to me that I feel quite the opposite of this. When I was 16, I didn't have a computer, didn't have a phone, had never used the Internet, but when I think of how life has changed, it's frankly not much. I woke up this morning, scooped my cats' litter boxes, took out some trash, made myself breakfast, ate that, read some news while eating, then lifted weights in my garage,…

Depends on where you live. My dad is almost 80, grew up in a very rural area, and when he was 16 they'd just gotten indoor plumbing. Up until he was 14, his school was a one-room school house with no heating other than a wood stove. If you were the first kid to arrive for the day, it was your job to get the fire going in winter months.

Housework meant no laundry machine, no dishwasher, and possibly no vacuum cleaner. That means hand washing everything, and beating rugs with sticks and brushes to get the dust off of them.

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Post by zitterbewegung »

I guess this is the "Google App engine" of Vibe coding when google raised pricing of App Engine significantly after being in preview. Doing weird price changes like this when coming out for new services make much more sense than doing this change which will just anger users.

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Post by stuartq »

ctoth wrote: post #255
hirako2000 wrote: post #198

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It does feel like the music is about to stop. It has been years now, of cash injections, investors can't keep feeding the beast forever.

It has been years now of reading this same comment... Surely people can't keep typing it forever.

But the prices haven't been going up by multiples of 6 for the past few years. Things are actually changing now. I don't think it's over, but in the short term, it's going to be considerably more expensive.

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Post by thinkingtoilet »

minimaxir wrote: post #34
thinkingtoilet wrote: post #23

People need to wake up and stop being surprised by these billing increases. I see it on every update of every model. This was all subsidized by VC and company money. Now they need a return and the prices will keep going up. Be glad that you took advantage of that up until now, but can we stop the pearl clutching when we all know the amount of money being dumped into AI and the lackluster returns?

It's less surprise, but more confusing given the game theory as their competitors are not doing the same thing and the multiplier changes alone will likely churn current users.

AI companies are increasing prices across the board.

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Post by mkhalil »

my002 wrote: post #4

The era of subsidised inference is truly ending. The new model multipliers ( https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/copilot-billing... ) seem like a huge leap, though. From 1x to 6x for new-ish GPT and Sonnet models. 27x for Opus... Seems like folks would be better off with OpenRouter instead.

Why would folks be better paying 5.5% fee to OpenRouter ("Open") if most people just use one or two providers? Just use the provider's API.

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Post by 0xffff2 »

sz4kerto wrote: post #303
0xffff2 wrote: post #263

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I'm curious about the opposite: Why would anyone use the CLI when, at least with Copilot, the VSCode plugin is super tightly integrated with VSCode, meaning the agent can see everything I can see. There's no mismatch in linter calls where I can see a lint in the ide that the agent can't find for example. I've had this problem even using CC in their VSCode extension, so I can't imagine it's not an issue in the CLI as…

We need sandboxing for any agent, so we run it within Docker - so we use CLI.

I use vscode with containers extensively. Not sure why containers imply CLI.

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Post by brokensegue »

kdheiwns wrote: post #137
0xffff2 wrote: post #124

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>Opus 4.7 seems like a model more intended to save Anthropic money than push the bar. How so? By all accounts I've read so far it uses more tokens overall for roughly the same results.

If you're delivering the same results and charging the customer more/letting the customer use the product less, that's saving the company money.

Their variable cost is (basically) the number of tokens. They increased that. I don't get how that saves them money

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Post by stefan_ »

giwook wrote: post #71
my002 wrote: post #4

The era of subsidised inference is truly ending. The new model multipliers ( https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/copilot-billing... ) seem like a huge leap, though. From 1x to 6x for new-ish GPT and Sonnet models. 27x for Opus... Seems like folks would be better off with OpenRouter instead.

Lots of us have noticed that usage limits for Claude have been nerfed in recent weeks/months. If anything, these new multipliers are more transparent than anything OpenAI or Anthropic have communicated regarding actual costs and give us a more realistic understanding of what it's costing these providers. The fact that we were able to get such a substantial amount of usage for $20/$100/$200 a month was never meant to…

Dunno, if in this day and age you are making inference more expensive, more scarce, you are honestly moving in the wrong direction and DeepSeek and others will gladly take your lunch.
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