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Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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post #176

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unless you screen is OLED, dark-mode has no or zero impact on battery usage, maybe even non-significant impact on OLEDs

Don't most LCD screens have localised dimming of the backlight these days?

Not laptops. Local dimming zones look awful when you have a white cursor moving around, so it's mostly still just a TV-feature

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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> How is ubuntu support for touchscreens these days? GNOME supports multitouch gestures, and the GTK4 toolkit is overall very touch-native. It strikes a nice balance between overpadded and touch-accessible, IMO: https://www.gnome.org/ (some of the newer Libadwaita widgets that GNOME is using: https://gnome.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/libadwaita/doc/main/wid... ) > How does it compare to an ipad in terms of fidelity / resp…

>With Wayland, it's borderline identical. Come on lol. I have a couple steam decks and both are really clunky. Most applications are not built using GTK4 nor Qt6 for that matter. On my steam deck the keyboard never pops up by itself so I have to use a key combination and it feels like I am moving a ghost mouse around the place (rather than proper touch screen support) I ran gnome on the deck for a while but anyway th…

I don't know what to tell you. I'm running it on the desktop with a drawing tablet, Magic Trackpad and oodles of apps, and it's not noticeably different from the stability of iPadOS.

My touchscreen laptop is closing in on being a decade old (i7 6600u) and the worst thing I can say about the experience is that it VSyncs down to 30fps during more taxing animations (just like my iPad does).

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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For me, this was an immediate buy. Everything about this is what I've been looking for in a Linux laptop. (Also, how refreshing is it to not have to think hard about how much RAM you might need over the next few years because you know you can always upgrade it later?)

Or, another way to think about this: "buy more ram when it becomes more affordable"

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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post #220

As soon as I saw the email announcement for the 13 Pro, my face fell. My assumption was that this was a brand new, incompatible chassis, and that my current 13 would be obsolete, and if I want to go further, I'd have to buy a whole new chassis in one go. Essentially a full laptop replacement, completely betraying the entire point. And then I click through and see the compatibility table and my jaw drops. Amazing! Yes…

The thermals hopefully won't be a problem, since the new Intel chips are quite efficient.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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It’s a niche box within its own niche (Linux). Perhaps they’ll do a pivot to eco friendly slippers. I admire their manifesto, but can’t see them surviving. You can get a last year’s decent Thinkpad for $400-600 with parts galore. This thing, you buy it on principle only.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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In the announcement video, he says the display is "LTPS LCD" (I don't actually know if that's good or not)

They would have definitely advertised if it was something special like mini-LED but it seems to be a pretty standard display.

Judging by the graphics used in the launch event, it may actually be miniLED. Perhaps they aren't mentioning this so people don't compare their max 700 nits full screen brightness to other vendors' >1000 nits full screen brightness.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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post #157

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It's really not, though. You don't even need an Apple account to set up a Mac. I pay $3/month to Apple in exchange for full-quality backups of decades of photos, but I could easily stop doing that, or switch to another provider, if I wanted to. (I don't, because $3/month is extremely fair for what I get.) I've never paid for any other Apple service and likely never will. The OS never, ever nags me about services - co…

> or switch to another provider Can you though? Its been a few years since I've been on apple, but being able to get anything but icloud native support in other apps was basically non-existent. Compared to android where it gives you a plethora of choice out of the box.

It's different on mobile (iOS/Android) where individual apps need special support for cloud providers. On a mac everything is just a file for most apps, so all the cloud providers work by default.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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post #141

I really want to love this thing but at least in the UK, matching specs it comes out as more expensive than the MBP - even worse when you factor in potential discounts/sales which framework doesn't offer. Framework 13 Pro: £2064 (Ultra X7 358H, 16GB, 1TB, default ports, no adapter) Framework 13 Pro: £2264 (Ultra X7 358H, 32GB, 1TB, default ports, no adapter) MacBook Pro 14: £1699 (M5, 16GB, 1TB, no adapter) MacBook P…

how would they compare over 10-15 years though. with one you are able to swap out the motherboard when you want an upgrade and with the other you have to buy a completely new device. then when it comes to repairing broken parts they are on opposite ends of the scale where apple actually go out of their way to make it harder for you to do that and its probably more expensive as well since only apple certified repair s…

> the other you have to buy a completely new device.

You can sell the old Macbook and recoup a lot of the original investment.

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