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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by selectnull » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:13 PM UTC

hei-lima wrote: post #77

Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.

> Apple’s software is the best [...] compared to Google's or Microsoft's

Honestly, that's such a low bar to hit.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by nixass » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:13 PM UTC

nobodyandproud wrote: post #285

Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

The user privacy can’t be overstressed. It and a sane release cycle are what keeps me on Apple.

it means nothing when the UX is hot garbage

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by dzonga » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:13 PM UTC

Tim Cook will be one of the legendary CEOs in history.

he knows when to be conservative - and knows when to push hard.

qualities very few CEOs have shown to have in practice.

all his contemporary competitors have ridden on certain waves e.g A.I to increase company valuation - while he did sorely on just pure operations not hype.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by riazrizvi » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:13 PM UTC

levocardia wrote: post #302

riazrizvi wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cook was a steward of Apple as an offshored manufacturing behemoth. I'm looking forward to where this reset goes. Hopefully better and American made products. The privacy focus is why Apple is dominant today, keep that up.

So you're looking forward to a $2000 iPhone 18e?

Pricing is based on customer value and restriction of customer options.

If we're paying $1000 for a Chinese phone that we'd pay $2000 for, we'll end up paying that price when the manufacturers have finally starved the professional capability to compete from the rest of the world. As we get closer to that point, the urgency to onshore is increasing.

Exploitation when we can get away with it is in our social nature as humans. So this isn't about the Chinese, or any other culture. It's just necessary for this to be onshored because it's critical.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by spaniard89277 » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:13 PM UTC

bayindirh wrote: post #157

hei-lima wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.

Their software is better than most (if not all) of closed-source universe. That's true, but the problem is, they were better in the past. I'm using both Linux and macOS close to 20 years (Linux is even more than 20, IIRC), and macOS (aka Mac OS) used to be snappier, more stable, more uniform and had incredibly low number of papercuts around the UI. Now it has some nasty thorns here and there, while Linux is improving…

I use both Linux and Macos, and I'd like to get rid of xcode or have something like Nautilus.

There are many, many things that are completely normal in Linux that are super clunky in MacOS at best.

But at least try to match Nautilus or Thunar ffs.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by ransom1538 » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:14 PM UTC

bayindirh wrote: post #157

hei-lima wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.

Their software is better than most (if not all) of closed-source universe. That's true, but the problem is, they were better in the past. I'm using both Linux and macOS close to 20 years (Linux is even more than 20, IIRC), and macOS (aka Mac OS) used to be snappier, more stable, more uniform and had incredibly low number of papercuts around the UI. Now it has some nasty thorns here and there, while Linux is improving…

We need thinner phones. We need 19 cameras. The future is clear.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by inquirerGeneral » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:15 PM UTC

Arainach wrote: post #268

hei-lima wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.

What metrics or experiences lead you to that conclusion? I've used basically all of the major operating systems for 30+ years and I cannot stand macOS. I use a Mac as one of my work devices, and off the top of my head: * Basic things such as window management require third party tools to get things that are table stakes everywhere else. Even with third party tools doing anything with a "full screen" mode is not going…

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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by rootusrootus » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:15 PM UTC

pzo wrote: post #212

tchalla wrote: post #39

> Under Cook’s leadership Apple has grown from a market capitalization of approximately $350 billion to $4 trillion, representing a more than 1,000% increase, and yearly revenue has nearly quadrupled, from $108 billion in fiscal year 2011 to more than $416 billion in fiscal year 2025. Quite successful.

This is what’s all bad with us stocks and completely disconnected with market value: Revenue jumped 4x but market capitalization got inflated to 12x.

Investors are forward-looking, though, so it just means that they think the future looks brighter than the immediate past.

The real disconnect IMO is TSLA.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by bitbeq » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:15 PM UTC

Tim has done an amazing job in the post-Jobs era with his logistics. Brought Apple from $350B to $4T. This move makes perfect sense as Apple needs to start their next chapter with how rapid the world is changing at the moment. I do hope Apple's values don't change going into this new era.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by bigupthewhole » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:16 PM UTC

hei-lima wrote: post #77

Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.

Have you seen xcode? Have you seen Appstore connect in comparison to Google play console?