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Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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Agreed. It’s cited so often on Reddit by people who want to establish their superiority over the masses. “It’s a documentary!!” is a meme unto itself. It’s also got a kind of weird eugenics-y vibe to it (like establishing “stupid people breeding makes stupid people” as incontrovertible fact) when you step back and examine it as a movie that’s making Serious Statements. But it isn’t. It’s not a bad movie. But it’s a c…

It's kind of funny when you say the movie isn't making serious statements when the highest of our publicly elected officials isn't a serious person. We elect people that are actively harmful to our well being. These people say things so incredibly stupid it can be painful. And then you wonder why people look at the movie like it's a documentary?

> We elect people that are actively harmful to our well being.

People choose policies that will actively harm themselves and their family/friends:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_of_Whiteness

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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Not quite sure "Ow My Balls / Jackass" argument should count, the Jackass franchise is older than Idiocracy and was most likely an inspiration for that bit.

There are quite a lot of dubious matches. Brawndo is considered a match with "Nestlé CEO says water isn't a human right". Beyond that it has nothing to do with agricultural malpractice, the Nestlé guy is just correct. It doesn't make sense to talk about human rights that way. "Ow my balls" is considered a match because "YouTube's most popular content is often people hurting themselves", which is just wrong. It's stuf…

I always looked at the Costco law degree as more of a commentary on Costco/price clubs than of degree mills.

Like Costco sells everything and eventually that includes education.

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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> Imho IQ scores aren’t a sufficient measure of intelligence, it’s very shaky science at best What do you propose as a replacement metric to determine if humans are getting dumber or not?

No idea. Why do we need to determine if humans are getting dumber or not?

What an odd question.

What do you think intelligence actually is? What effects do you think it has when it goes up or down in mass?

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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Public education is important. Without it, it’s harder to stay above average. But there are those who say “it is not my duty to fund the education of anyone else.” Hence, here we are.

"Public education" is exactly the thing that will guarantee Idiocracy, that was practically the whole point of the movie

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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I'm not in the USA, but I think the issue is not so much the joke getting tiresome, but the repeat school shootings. Maybe if there was work done to stop the shootings, then the joke wouldn't keep getting repeated.

First and foremost you should attempt to be funny or original. This is neither. It's political. I would love headlines like: > Illegal Immigrant Finally Caught After 20 Years of Successfully Contributing to Society but instead you get non joke headlines like: > ICE Agents Hurl Pregnant Immigrant Over Mexican Border To Prevent Birth On U.S. Soil It's just cringe.

First and foremost you should endeavor to be a human, and The Onion does not owe you a thing. It's not a joke anymore, its a class ware and genocide that they are reporting on with headlines that make you cringe.

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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I feel Idiocracy is irresistible bait for 'not like the other girls'-types. Everytime this movie comes up, droves of people mention how they get it, while others don't. It's becoming a trope in itself.

Not just 'other girls'. That happens, but also, it's a theme that has been around a long time. The 'Maga' movement existed before Trump. This is 1992 Was also in Snow Crash. "All these beefy Caucasians with guns! Get enough of them together, looking for the America they always believed they'd grow up in, and they glom together like overcooked rice…With their power tools, portable generators, weapons, four-wheel-drive…

Snow Crash came to mind, but so did several other Neal Stephenson books!

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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How many felt insulted by Don't Look Up--I'm guessing that Venn is a circle.

I wasn't insulted, but it did feel a bit too on the nose to really work as satire. Idiocracy got there just in time, before things became so stupid that satire wasn't possible any more. You have to exaggerate so hard that it lacks the feeling of cleverness required by satire. The Onion struggles on. They've always been true masters of the form. I wrote my own news satire back in the 80s and quit when I saw The Onion;…

Texas Monthly (“The National Magazine of Texas”) covers local news with a straight face, letting the absurdity speak for itself. Read the recent article about ranchers and rabbis searching for the perfect heifer to bring about the end of the world - you can see the movie coming (Coen Brothers or The Daniels?) https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/red-heifer-prophe...

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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I feel Idiocracy is irresistible bait for 'not like the other girls'-types. Everytime this movie comes up, droves of people mention how they get it, while others don't. It's becoming a trope in itself.

Not just 'other girls'. That happens, but also, it's a theme that has been around a long time. The 'Maga' movement existed before Trump. This is 1992 Was also in Snow Crash. "All these beefy Caucasians with guns! Get enough of them together, looking for the America they always believed they'd grow up in, and they glom together like overcooked rice…With their power tools, portable generators, weapons, four-wheel-drive…

> The 'Maga' movement existed before Trump. This is 1992

Anti-intellectualism has a long and storied in the US (and other countries):

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-intellectualism#In_the_Un...

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-intellectualism_in_Americ...

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