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Not everything needs to be at the highest high of "performant", and you're ridiculous to use that as a gotcha. I told you, this pointless internet interaction is over . You are not here to argue in good faith, so take it somewhere else.
So yet another shitty bloated web app…
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Fix their dominant position through legislation, not with more monopolies and anticompetitive behavior.
Are you talking about Google or Apple? Because Apple is being sued by the DOJ for monopolistic and anticompetitive behavior. There are numerous examples of it spelled out in the lawsuit: https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/media/1344546/dl?inline
In their wildest of wet dreams Microsoft didn’t imagine they could get away with what Apple is getting away with.
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You continue to dwell on Bluetooth while ignoring that there are reasons to not just blindly follow Google which is what pages like this are advocating for. I honestly don't care about Bluetooth and I don't have any stakes on whether or not it is supported, and I also don't know enough about it to actually talk about security on it. I will leave that to people that actually know what they are talking about instead. I…
>blindly follow Google You obviously did not read my comment or understand it, so this pointless internet interaction is over .
I do find it quite fascinating that you have written this phrase 5 times in this thread instead of actually being able to engage in a conversation you disagree with. Frankly it's not cute.
Sure it is pointless but you also chose to start engaging in the conversation since you were confident in what you wanted to say. Just as I am.
On multiple occasions you are purposefully ignoring what people are saying and attempting to just talk about something else. I have acknowledged your bluetooth comment but you refuse to acknowledge topics api or any other instance that Google has also used their power to try to do exactly what you claim Apple is doing.
Google is not your friend, neither is Apple. And you may not care what Mozilla does but W3C does so they matter and they don't have the incentives Apple does and yet they also chose not to implement many of the same features, which you also won't acknowledge.
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>The fact is that Google wrote these specifications, couldn’t convince any other rendering engine to implement them, and somehow it’s Apple’s fault the rest of the world rejected their idea. Apple is on the W3C board that gets to decide which APIs become standards. They are preventing these APIs from becoming standards. They have an interest to forbid Web Bluetooth and NFC from becoming standards, because they profit…
> Apple is on the W3C board that gets to decide which APIs become standards. They are preventing these APIs from becoming standards. They are not. You have this almost entirely backwards. To become a standard, you only need two independent interoperable implementations. This means Apple cannot block something from becoming a standard. The only thing Google needs to do is convince anybody else to implement their propo…
Apple has a lot more control over this situation than Firefox does, and Firefox has limited resources.
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Firefox is not in a position where it is the only browser allowed to run on a platform. On iOS, you’re either doing a native app, sharing 30% of your income with Apple, or you’re restricted to Safari’s feature set. No browser in iOS can use anything but WebKit
Even so, conflating "Safari is holding the web platform back by not implementing standardized web features" with "Safari is holding the Google platform back by not implementing non-standard Google features" is kind of disingenuous. Going through some of the list from the top: * Shortcuts in the manifest: This seems to be standard. Would be nice if mobile Safari supported it. * Protocol Handling: This is non-standard.…
I would rather prefer web pages do not gain the ability to make my phone vibrate.
I am curious why Safari in particular is getting a lot of the hate here when firefox supports even less of the features which leads me to believe that the reason many of these features have not been accepted is because they have not been accepted by the larger ecosystem and is just google pushing their own things as standard (Feels like IE days in many ways). That being said, I am not sure why I would actually want m…
Firefox is entirely optional, not a monopoly anywhere.
The problem for me isn't making bad web browsers, it's enforcing those bad browsers as the only option on a computer platform.
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>blindly follow Google You obviously did not read my comment or understand it, so this pointless internet interaction is over .
> so this pointless internet interaction is over. I do find it quite fascinating that you have written this phrase 5 times in this thread instead of actually being able to engage in a conversation you disagree with. Frankly it's not cute. Sure it is pointless but you also chose to start engaging in the conversation since you were confident in what you wanted to say. Just as I am. On multiple occasions you are purpose…
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>blindly follow Google You obviously did not read my comment or understand it, so this pointless internet interaction is over .
> so this pointless internet interaction is over. I do find it quite fascinating that you have written this phrase 5 times in this thread instead of actually being able to engage in a conversation you disagree with. Frankly it's not cute. Sure it is pointless but you also chose to start engaging in the conversation since you were confident in what you wanted to say. Just as I am. On multiple occasions you are purpose…
This pointless internet interaction is over.
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Fix their dominant position through legislation, not with more monopolies and anticompetitive behavior.
I can do neither, actually. I can merely observe reality as it is and look at which forces affect the direction of the world. And right now, I observe a reality where one of the most significant forces which counteract a completely Chromium dominated web is Apple's user-hostile insistence on preventing browser engine competition on iOS. I have very little faith in a legislative solution here since I believe politicia…
They need to wrap up the DOJ lawsuit against Apple, but I fear the current administration will look the other way because "Tim Apple" gave the guy in charge a golden trophy. I wish I were joking.