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Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by mmmm2 »

tuna74 wrote: post #287
ttul wrote: post #190

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Strategically, it seems like a dumb move. Right now, Congress is unlikely to approve Trump’s request for $200B to fund the war effort. But if Americans can be convinced that Iran could somehow hit American cities, they would call their members of Congress in a heartbeat and that money would presumably flow without interruption. Why time the medium range missiles now? It seems like yet another own-goal for this desper…

Or the US could just stop bombing Iran? Then there would be no reason for Iran to attack American cities.

Yeah, that would be nice. I'm worried this will continue to escalate.

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Post by throwaw12 »

UltraSane wrote: post #307
throwaw12 wrote: post #256

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> tens of thousands of their own citizens Any credible source for this? 1. Western media is not credible because West treats Iran as enemy 2. Iranian media is not credible because they obviously want to hide facts when they're negative Now my question is, why are you spreading unverifiable information as something credible and building your facts on top of it?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce9mzn7k722o

> Iran has executed three men accused of killing police officers during anti-government protests in January,

As I said, West considers Iran as enemy, used words by BBC reflects this clearly.

1. "accused of" - we don't know, but lets say they're "accusing" them

2. if true, then they have killed the "police officers" (seems many?) so what do you expect from Iran?

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Post by idop »

drcongo wrote: post #316
idop wrote: post #303

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They obliterated a kindergarten in Israel just this morning, and several others since the start of the war. Last week a missile landed right behind my house, just between a kindergarten and an elementary school, damaging both. Literally all Israeli casualties were civilian. Your comment made me realize international media doesn't care to even publish this, leading to this incredibly skewed view.

Doesn't Isreal have a ban on reporting of strikes inside their borders?

No, only specifics like exact locations are not publicized.

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Post by jiggawatts »

GordonS wrote: post #300
jandrewrogers wrote: post #290

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Again, that's not "carpet bombing". Carpet bombing requires a type of aircraft that Israel doesn't have (though the US does). Why would you expect a precision bomb to have a JDAM package? That is not the only type of guidance package. In fact, most of the footage I've seen (largely Israeli) has clearly been laser-guided bombs. They aren't the same thing, and the latter is more precise than JDAM in any case. Use of pr…

Even if their actions might not precisely meet some dictionary definition of "carpet bombing", you know well what I meant - civilians and civilian infrastructure are being deliberately targeted with complete disregard for loss of life and environmental consequences.

That’s called war.

You’re parroting IRGC propaganda, which is why people are arguing with you.

“We are innocent civilians and the Israelis are carpet bombing us”… said by the people that funded October 7th and killed more of their own people than the Israeli bombs did.

Iran’s government has been violently belligerent for decades, and continues to this day to bomb its Arab neighbours including hitting their civilians! They don’t get to whine about the morality of civilian versus military deaths.

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Post by throwaw12 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #259
throwaw12 wrote: post #256

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> tens of thousands of their own citizens Any credible source for this? 1. Western media is not credible because West treats Iran as enemy 2. Iranian media is not credible because they obviously want to hide facts when they're negative Now my question is, why are you spreading unverifiable information as something credible and building your facts on top of it?

> Any credible source for this? For tens of thousands? No. That’s the upper end of estimates. For the brutality? Yes. Wikipedia is a good start.

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Post by einszwei »

idop wrote: post #303
einszwei wrote: post #109

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Your comment made me realise that while Iran has attacked a dozen countries, they have yet to attack a school or a hospital. Not condoning anyone but shows the priority of both sides.

They obliterated a kindergarten in Israel just this morning, and several others since the start of the war. Last week a missile landed right behind my house, just between a kindergarten and an elementary school, damaging both. Literally all Israeli casualties were civilian. Your comment made me realize international media doesn't care to even publish this, leading to this incredibly skewed view.

Thanks for correction. I looked up the news and could find reporting that some fragments of a missile did hit kindergarten. Thankfully no kids were there.

I'd edit my previous comment but I can't.

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Post by idop »

typon wrote: post #148
gizajob wrote: post #69

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I can’t be an apologist for what’s going on but the Iranians seemed capable of killing tens of thousands of their own citizens in order to quash an uprising against the regime only weeks before the current events.

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Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by throwaw12 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #254
throwaw12 wrote: post #249

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Iran hasn't attacked Turkmenistan yet, so neutrality has protected them

> Iran hasn't attacked Turkmenistan yet The fact that we have to pick out a single neighbour they haven’t attacked sort of lands the point.

Okay, Afghanistan as well. Afghanistan is obviously not neutral, but they haven't participated in supporting US-Israeli attack on Iran

How about now?

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Post by solatic »

drcongo wrote: post #316
idop wrote: post #303

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They obliterated a kindergarten in Israel just this morning, and several others since the start of the war. Last week a missile landed right behind my house, just between a kindergarten and an elementary school, damaging both. Literally all Israeli casualties were civilian. Your comment made me realize international media doesn't care to even publish this, leading to this incredibly skewed view.

Doesn't Isreal have a ban on reporting of strikes inside their borders?

The ban is on reporting the exact locations (i.e. coordinates) of where missiles land, because it's information that is useful in helping the enemy to calibrate where missiles will land. Reporting on other details is perfectly acceptable.

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Post by flyinglizard »

UltraSane wrote: post #311
cardanome wrote: post #95

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Thousands, not tens of thousands. Which is bad enough so it seems silly to lie about this but whoever can make up the biggest number seems to favored by the Western narrative. And let us not act like the decades of sanction were not designed to do exactly this. Sanctions mean you create as much hardships as possible for the people in hope they topple their government. They nearly never work but here we are. > Contrar…

"Mossads agents had been arming people and instructing them to riot. " This feels far too much like Iranian government propaganda to be plausible.

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