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Re: Warranty Void If Regenerated

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Post by nextaccountic »

Stwerner wrote: post #81
furyofantares wrote: post #62

I guess I'm an expert on LLM-isms somehow, I thought they were still plentiful. They're plentiful at the start but get significantly worse near the end, so I'm guessing you spent more time polishing up the first 2/3rds or so. But I was able to get through the text, it's pretty good, you did great work cleaning it up. There's just a bit more to do to my taste. The story is good.

Thanks! Yeah there were a couple I decided to leave in rather than try to rework as I wasn't trying to hide that it was written with AI, more trying to add more variety to the storytelling. I'm sure as I do more of these I'll be able to recognize them a lot easier. I have been toying with the idea of working them more into character's dialogue in the future, as I've already noticed some people I know speaking in LLMi…

What about you share your full prompt story in a footnote?

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Post by ryukoposting »

Throaway1975123 wrote: post #311
ryukoposting wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bingo. The problem with this take is that the people pissing and moaning in the early '70s were right. Early Dylan sounds good. The texture of an acoustic guitar draws focus to songcraft and away from objectively bad execution. Dylan's vocals were always bad but they went from charmingly bad to just-plain-bad with the transition to electric. The bigger sound was not flattering for him. With 60 years of hindsight, fol…

Actually most serious music fans consider Dylan's best work to be in the 70's period. New Morning, Saved, Planet Waves, Basement Tapes Source: Worked in record store for 15 years.

The only consensus among serious music fans is that there is no consensus among serious music fans. Source: me, serious music fan.

A lot of things about Dylan got empirically better throughout the '70s, I'll give you that. Deeper concepts, more challenging structure, yada yada yada.

The problem is that I don't decide what I listen to based on anything empirical. If I'm standing around thinking "man, I want to listen to Bob Dylan today," I'm thinking of Freewheelin'. You could say "well that's just you," but we both know it isn't. A third group probably thinks of Highway 61 or something.

Same thing goes for a lot of artists. Master of Puppets is the best Metallica album empirically, but if I'm thinking "gee I want to listen to Metallica today," I'm playing Ride the Lightning, or And Justice for All.

In any case, I think all of this subjectivity might suggest that Dylan going electric was a bad comparison for AI generated art, lol.

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Post by brainwad »

Aeolun wrote: post #99
donatj wrote: post #61

I'm trying to sort out my own emotions on this. I did not realize this was AI generated while reading it until I came to the comments here... And I feel genuinely had? Like "oh wow, you got me"... I don't like this feeling. It's certainly the longest thing (I know about) I've taken the time to read that was AI generated. The writing struck me as genuinely good, like something out of The New Yorker. I found the story…

It's full of AI generated imagery. Why would it not be AI generated?

Blog posts like this have been full of genAI images for years, even if the text is actually written by a human. So just because the images are obviously generated doesn't really tell you much about the text.

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Post by devin »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #127
devin wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is your understanding of the luddite movement? I ask because I don't believe many are aware that luddites were not anti-technology. It was a labor movement which was targeted at exploitation by factory owners. Their issue was with factories forcing the use of machines to produce inferior products so owners could use cheaper, low skill labor. https://www.vice.com/en/article/luddites-definition-wrong-la...

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haha, if you knew me you would realize that I am exactly the wrong person to be asking that specific question.

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Post by dormento »

Two things:

1) Bravo. This was actually a fun, enjoyable read. Thank you fellow writer.

2) Thanks to everyone for your thoughtful comments on this. As one of the authors, I must confess it was not my intention when I wrote that tvtropes wiki page that was ingested by that dodgy script with that weird user agent string and a bad attitude, then added to the data set that eventually made the LLM weights just right for this beautiful story to be possible. I'll be working on more wiki pages soon, so you can look up to more of my stories in the future.

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Post by WarcrimeActual »

tomhow wrote: post #126
WolfeReader wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"it's boring to see how a human and an AI bot can collaborate to create writing like this." FTFY

Please don’t post snarky, shallow dismissals or use internet tropes on HN. I explained thought process we went through. Nothing on HN is to everyone’s taste. Plenty of people are finding this post interesting and having a good discussion about it.

Please don't have human emotions that you haven't ran through and AI, errr... I mean collaborated with an AI on.

Re: Warranty Void If Regenerated

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Post by rikschennink »

avian wrote: post #238
rikschennink wrote: post #164

When I noticed the article header image was generated with AI my interest in reading the article itself dropped to zero.

Can you point out what made you think the images were AI generates? I suspected they were (before reading in this thread everything is AI generated), but I couldn't find any of the usual signs. I thought they were AI because I suspected nobody would pay an illustrator/actually spend time making those illustrations for a story like this. The fact that the whole text was AI came as a surprise. I did notice that weird i…

It seemed to be a common AI style, so I was suspicious. Zoomed in on the laundromat window sign and it says “vioice”, so yea.

Looking at it again now, things like the electrical wires not being aligned, or going nowhere are always obvious tells. The outlines on the A in “laundromat” are okay but for some reason the vertical line on the R isn’t open.

It’s impressive that this can be generated with AI. I just wish it would come with a “generated with llm-name” label.

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Post by jjmarr »

ByThyGrace wrote: post #88
jjmarr wrote: post #38

Your polishing work made a difference! The prose is like every other work of science fiction I've read. It's written like this is a dystopia but billing $180/45 minutes in rural low cost of living area sounds awesome. And the choreographer billing "more than a truck" for three weeks? The dream!

> The prose is like every other work of science fiction I've read. Well, then, you gotta move on to reading better science fiction. Because this is pretty damn bland. I gave up after 2 minutes because of it. Kinda feel vindicated after coming to the comments. I can see it working for casual readers, which is why it's already an editorial problem. Imagine having to sift through a growing number of faux writers sending…

Hard science fiction isn't known for the quality of its prose. I'm reading something like Starship Troopers or The Martian because I believe the technology and culture depicted in the setting is interesting.
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