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Re: MacBook Air with M5

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Thinkpads have track points, macs don't. That benchmark is really important to me due to RSI. Track points save me a buttload of hand pain.

Ever since the T450 the trackpoint has been awful. Can't replace the nob anymore either, as the convex knob was arguably the best

What do you mean when you say you can't replace the knob?

It comes off on my T14s Gen 1 and the T14s Gen 5 that replaced it.

Re: MacBook Air with M5

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I'm excited about this. The previous generation base model 15" Air was good enough for our company to make it the default computer for everyone. Previously we were giving out base model MBP's. And they're $1000 cheaper. Today, the MBP is just way too powerful for anything other than specific use cases that need it.

Out of curiosity, what are some good use cases for a MBP now with the MBAs being so powerful? I can think of things like 4K video editing or 3D rendering but as a software engineer is there anything we really need to spend the extra money on an MBP for? I'm currently on a M1 Max but am seriously considering switching to an MBA in the next year or two.

It's all related to things outside the CPU and GPU that made me choose a base model M5 Macbook Pro. I prefer the larger 14-inch screen for its 120hz capability and much better brightness and colour capability. I adore that there are USB-C ports on both sides for charging. The battery's bigger. That's about it.

Re: MacBook Air with M5

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WTF are you doing with it? Mine doesn't do that (M4 Pro MBP / 24Gb)

Try to browse the web. Try to listen to music with Plexamp. Ordinary boring stuff but I think it is looking all over Slovakia for my AirPods or something so it can take them away from whatever machine I really want to use them on. The feeling is exactly like the way it was with Windows circa 2005 when you expected your machine to go bad like cheese in a few months.

Something is seriously wrong with your machine or one of the persistent apps you are running.

Backup, reset to factory. Try using it, if it’s fixed, try restoring. If it’s not fixed it’s defective in some way.

If it’s broken only after you restore, manually import your data and install apps one at a time making sure nothing breaks before installing the next.

Re: MacBook Air with M5

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you forgot to mention the trackpad. MUCH nicer than the competitor trackpads. especially if you use some of the advanced gestures (some are hidden in accessibility settings).

You can also close the lid and trust it to stay off and open it up even a week later and resume at the same place you left off with very little battery usage. How no one else can figure out how to do this in almost 15 years or more is beyond me.

Its absolutley mind boggling. My work machine (lenovo) regualry roasts itself to 0% battery in my backpack during my commute

Re: MacBook Air with M5

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Asahi is great on earlier models but it will certainly not support the M5 before its already multiple models behind.

That's only because they are focusing on upstreaming all of their work into the kernel first. A handful of them spent a small amount of time building some device trees for M3 and it didn't take them long to get to the point M1's were at at the first release of Asahi. I imagine once a lot of the cleanup and maintenance is done on what they have, they'll be in a better spot to accelerate support for other SoCs, and it…

Unfortunately, Apple is not one to revisit their previous decisions very often. With the move to Apple Silicon, the capabilities of the bootloader were locked in (chain-of-trust, ability to load other OS and keep chain-of-trust on macOS) and that was it. Apple is telling you what they support; there's never any damning secret with them. You want to run Linux? Run it in a VM on macOS. That's what marketing has been saying since day one of the M1.

Them's the breaks.

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post #88

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I'm excited about this. The previous generation base model 15" Air was good enough for our company to make it the default computer for everyone. Previously we were giving out base model MBP's. And they're $1000 cheaper. Today, the MBP is just way too powerful for anything other than specific use cases that need it.

Yes, back 10-15 years ago MBP felt more prosumer to me but they have monstrous performance and price points nowadays, like true luxury items or enterprise devices, that I'm happy to see good base specs on the MBA. The base spec on that device matters a lot. Also, Apple will probably release a cheaper MacBook this week and if the rumor holds, it'll be good enough for most consumers.

The base 15" MacBook Pro was $2,399 10 years ago ($3,251.07 adjusted for Inflation) today it is $2,699.

https://everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook...

Re: MacBook Air with M5

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When they don't have to pay a percentage of sales price as royalty to Qualcomm.

All their iPhones run on Apple made cellular chips now

Not yet. Only the iPhone Air and the iPhone 17e and I believe the new iPads.

Re: MacBook Air with M5

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This is the best laptop for the general consumer around $1k. - it has no annoying fans, it is completely silent - a high res display with no PWM flickering and reasonable response times, no burn-in issues, enough brightness for outdoor use - best-in-class hardware, very very efficient, amazing single thread performance, good multi thread, very good GPU - no Microsoft Windows annoyances, ads, bloatware, broken stuff a…

Why the restriction to laptops? I don't get why prosumers would marry themselves 24/7 to a single portable device, when their conflicting requirements vary by task and circumstances: portability, high performance, low energy usage, and low noise aren't permanent requirements.

Sure, there's no single device that has Apple's blend of attributes, but who need that in this age of VMs and broadband Internet? My 32-core HEDT workstation outperforms anything Apple branded. I have a Chromebook when I need to be unplugged (<10% or the time)

Re: MacBook Air with M5

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why?

I just do a lot of remote work and I rely on my phone which drains its battery and I’d love if I could just open my laptop and work

Battery problem solved

Anker 747 Power Bank (PowerCore... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089D4176K?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_shar...

Re: MacBook Air with M5

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Good news, intel panther lake (and the laptops they come in) are on par with M5 macbooks in almost every way. This year is a lot more competitive than any of the past ~4 years for premium laptops. The asus expertbook ultra even has a much better screen, a much better keyboard, and a very similar haptic trackpad. Weighs less than a 13 inch macbook air too. There's cheaper options too that are close to as good (minus t…

Can you quantify your claim? PTL’s highest SKU is comparable to the base M5 for only multicore perf at double the power use in every benchmark I’ve seen. It lags significantly behind in single core. But I’d love to see a benchmark showing otherwise. Just the latest I’ve seen https://youtu.be/7OxE7FwJPJM?si=b5T0PbmhUD1TXhX4 But I can find none that have PTL actually anywhere near M5 without strapping a much larger bat…

It's ridiculous to claim high and mighty that a chip that's not out yet is competitive. The only real way to test a laptop chip is in a laptop with the thermal choices made by the laptop maker. Hell, the M5 has been mostly benchmarked on the Macbook Pro, and that has a fan! The M5 is not going to be as impressive in the Air.

It's been five years since M1 and Intel has never been competitive in single-core perf per watt with Apple. It would be surprising if it changed.

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