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Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by rayiner »

This seems squarely within the purpose of the Defense Production Act: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Production_Act_of_1950

"Title I authorizes the President to identify specific goods as 'critical and strategic' and to require private businesses to accept and prioritize contracts for these materials."

If you invented a new kind of power source, and the government determined that it could be used to efficiently kill enemies, the government could force you to provide the product to them under the DPA. Why should AI companies get an exemption to that?

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Post by dataflow »

hakrgrl wrote: post #292

1.5 hours after this was posted, Sam Altman stated openai will work with the DoW. So much for this waste of a domain name. https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 "Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. "

The wording I see is not exactly free of loopholes. I noted them on the other thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47190163

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Post by Jimmc414 »

stinkbeetle wrote: post #307
hakrgrl wrote: post #292

1.5 hours after this was posted, Sam Altman stated openai will work with the DoW. So much for this waste of a domain name. https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 "Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. "

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What else can they do? Would you recommend they stay silent? It sounds like they are no longer the gatekeepers of this technology or they never were to begin with.

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Post by m4rtink »

jefftk wrote: post #115
txrx0000 wrote: post #48

This is why you can't gatekeep AI capabilities. It will eventually be taken from you by force. It's time to open-source everything. Papers, code, weights, financial records. Do all of your research in the open. Run 100% transparent labs so that there's nothing to take from you. Level the playing field for good and bad actors alike, otherwise the bad actors will get their hands on it while everyone else is left behind…

A "world where millions of AGIs run on millions of gaming PCs, where each AI is aligned with an individual human" would be a world in which people could easily create humanity-ending bioweapons. I would love to live in a less vulnerable world, and am working full time to bring about such a world, but in the meantime what you describe would likely be a disaster.

I think it is much more likely they will be (and are) generating protorealistic images of ther favourite person (real or fictional) with cat ears. Never underestimate what adding cat ears does.

OK, maybe someone will build a bioweapon that does that for real. :P

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Post by ProllyInfamous »

doodlebugging wrote: post #241

The best way for AI companies to fight this would be to remind those who request this capability that the AI knows exactly where they live, where they hang out, and that any one of them can also be targeted by a rogue AI system with no human in the loop. Capabilities that they are requesting could jeopardize them, their personal assets, and their families if something goes haywire or, in the much more common case, wh…

Instead of Epsteins blackmailing disgustful human nature, it'll be rogue AIs sending selective blackmail, 24/7, to the spiteful among us (e.g. to motivate targeted killings, either by human or machine).

>All of this should remain a bridge too far, forever.

Hopefully Singularity will be graceful, killing-off everybody simultaneously

#PaperclipMaximizer #HimFirst

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Post by foobarqux »

Gigachad wrote: post #299
hakrgrl wrote: post #292

1.5 hours after this was posted, Sam Altman stated openai will work with the DoW. So much for this waste of a domain name. https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 "Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. "

Something doesn’t make sense here. His tweet claims he has exactly the same restrictions that Anthropic had.

No, the difference is that the government agrees to no "unlawful" use as determined by the government.

Anthropic said that mass surveillance was per se prohibited even if the government self-certified that it was lawful.

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Post by rustystump »

duped wrote: post #239
ArchieScrivener wrote: post #229

The USA showed itself to be a Command Economy that uses 'private enterprise' as a fascade of legitimacy during Covid. Without government spending, employment, and contracts, the USA would be net negative growth. Now the DoD, who are by far the largest budgetary expense for the tax payer, wants us to believe they don't have a better Ai than current industry? That is a double sword admission; either they are exposing t…

> who are by far the largest budgetary expense for the tax payer not even top 3

Let me guess without looking up, debt interest, gov pension, medicare?

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by jaco6 »

gritspants wrote: post #309
Gigachad wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something doesn’t make sense here. His tweet claims he has exactly the same restrictions that Anthropic had.

My theory is that they both went through normal procurement processes. At some point, one of Palantir's forward deployed sales agents slapped someone's arm at the golph course and said, yes we can automously kill with our AI agents. Anthropic, having little to do with the kind of 'AI' in a use case that made sense for, declined.

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