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Why isn't LA repaving streets?

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Re: Why isn't LA repaving streets?

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The engineers are a big part of the problem and drive regulations that featherbed themselves. I got into a fight with my city over nonexistent crosswalks (the adhesive line strips wore off) near my home in an area where drivers have a hard time realizing where pedestrians cross due to a unique road setup. You can’t just paint lines. The project ended up costing about $1.2M and required a traffic study, some stupid AD…

I love a good rant, but you just have no idea what you’re talking about. First, real engineers (the kind with, education and experience requirements and personal liability for their work) have labor markups that are maybe 2 to 3 times raw rate. I don’t know if 6X margins are normal for people who collect a check to “maintain” a finished product. Second, any civil engineer will tell you that complete streets complianc…

In fairness, I should have said "engineering companies" vs. engineers. Like any scenario, the engineers themselves have to work in the scope they are allowed to. Those firms absolutely lobbied our state legislature for all sorts of things that generate make-work revenue for them. Most of the proof of work is farmed off to low dollar employees.

In this particular scenario, it's an usual configuration that can't be changed for a bunch of reasons. There are functional, adequate controls that were added about 15 years ago and were not altered by the project I'm thinking about. The crosswalks and lane markings are essential because drivers tend to stop at the wrong place.

While we may have been getting rope-a-doped, our neighborhood association was willing to contribute a pretty significant amount of money to have the city do the work. Our position was that it was becoming a dangerous intersection with significant pedestrian traffic. We were told it was illegal for the city dpw to do so without the study work.

Re: Why isn't LA repaving streets?

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You'll never succeed with this attitude.

No worries, it's already happening and your resistance to the status quo changing is expected and accounted for. Try to bike to work sometime — it's good for the soul. And your health of course.

How smug of you.

Re: Why isn't LA repaving streets?

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this attitude really helps improve cyclists' reputation.

What attitude do you expect from marginalized groups? Suffragists, slaves? Ring a bell? If you think I'm exaggerating or something, I'm really not. You were born into a world already bulldozed for cars so you literally can't imagine an alternative reality. You're broken — can't see the world for what it is objectively.

Are rollerbladers marginalized? Cross country skiers ? It’s a hobby. This isn’t a civil rights movement, and it’s insulting to call cyclists “marginalized” like blacks , women and gays were.

Re: Why isn't LA repaving streets?

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The vast majority of the comments here seem to be completely missing the actual reason. I see people claiming this is about heavier SUV's, about people moving to the suburbs, governmental incompetence, that we "can't figure out how to pave roads", that this is corruption... ...just no. What this is, is that the federal ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) has required wheelchair access (curb ramps) along roads since…

This makes no sense. What you call "curb ramps" is a part of standard road infrastructure in Germany. They're basically everywhere in Germany. If the Los Angeles government can't figure out how to implement a practice that has been legislated for 36 years, then they deserve a kick in the balls that forces them to wake up. The fact that 36 years of neglect coincide in 2026 isn't the result of a law that happened to pa…

I've been reading comments feeling like I'm going bonkers. We don't have 'curb ramps' here in Australia (like external ramps from the curb to the road? I can't find pictures of them), but the curbs have downward slopes at intersections to meet the road at road level, like a driveway. And that's pretty standard everywhere.

Re: Why isn't LA repaving streets?

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In the UK we call this 'Surface Dressing' and is a typical money saving meaasure to avoid the full cost of paving the road properly. It looks terrible and doenst last very long, so peronsally I dont see the point. https://www.somerset.gov.uk/roads-travel-and-parking/surface...

The point is for the road to be better to use. If it's cheap and fast, then there's no reason to wait to do it "properly" later. Do the quick fix first.

Nope, thats the cheap way to save money in the short term. But it makes the roads much worse quality for a lot longer. The surface dressing rips and pulls up very quickly, and so the road is rough and full of holes for a longer period.

Re: Why isn't LA repaving streets?

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A lot of city governments no longer really focus on the day-to-day living experience in their city. Instead, they focus on property value and the discovery of increasingly palatable ways to limit or justify raising property taxes in order to stay in power.

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Unlike Republicans, who win elections by promising to let their rich friends break the law and also promise free money. E.g.

https://www.newsweek.com/tariff-refund-stimulus-check-donald...

https://trumpaccounts.gov/

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/politics/2025/05/30/...

Re: Why isn't LA repaving streets?

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These are all factual things that Indiana state government has actually done over the past 10-15 years. Not to mention the crippling higher education reforms and the state seizing control over tenure review.

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So move. I hear Texas is great, if you can get past the broken electrical grid, entrenched gerrymandering, ineffective corporate-owned healthcare, and rocketing housing prices. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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