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I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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post #290

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... And how do you access the passwords that password manager manages?

With the "password manager" program? I have one on my desktop and one on my smartphone. How do you expect to access the passwords that the password manager manages?

... Can everyone in the world ready our passwords or are they "protected" somehow?

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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post #228

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On that subject, I'd be curious to see any computer that's not mostly made in Asia.

HP makes them, so does Dell. They cost a bit extra, but essentially the whole Federal government runs on nothing else. The difference between EU and US is that it's possible to make all components in the US, using US equipment, and so some companies do because it commands a pretty decent premium. It's not even that hard since most components (e.g. reference motherboard designs) are still designed and actually built i…

I'm rather curious where in the US HP and Dell source, let's say, their displays?

And while many (but certainly not all) of the other components could be made in the US, it's expensive and capacity is limited. So even the likes of HP and Dell have most of it done in Asia. Even Intel chips generally pass through Asia for assembly and testing, and their modern CPU tiles are likely to include TSMC-fabricated components.

All this is to say: the US is not tech independent (unless ancient tech counts). No single country is.

Though if you're just trying to say that the EU is significantly more tech-dependent than the US then I agree of course.

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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post #239

What do American colleagues think when they read about this trend among Europeans to abandon their platforms?

I go out of my way to use American services. It would be hypocritical of me to deny others the right to use their country’s services. Plus competition is always better for consumers so have at it.

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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post #239

What do American colleagues think when they read about this trend among Europeans to abandon their platforms?

I am deeply troubled by what the Trump regime is doing but I think this trend for European countries to use European tech is actually quite good. Competition is better, plus your privacy laws are much better. I host some of my own data in Europe for this reason.

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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post #274

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> The difference between EU and US is that it's possible to make all components in the US, using US equipment False. ASML is in the EU.

The most technologically critical component of ASML's EUV lithography machines (the EUV light source) is designed, developed, and manufactured in California by Cymer.

And another extremely critical piece of technology is the mirror from Zeiss, which is not manufactured in the US.

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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post #120

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Google Ads does "kind of" work in the niche I am in, usually with low competition key words.... but I did stop throwing money at it. I am never going to return the investment per conversion... but if you want a search engine to throw your money at.. it is still pretty much without alternative to me.

If you want to throw your money into a pit, there's a lot of alternative pits available out there. Happy to share my bank account, then at least one of us gets use out of it. > You can add email/password and passkeys, but removing social logins entirely is a conversion killer. Every one of those auth flows hits American servers. The silver lining: Hanko, a German identity provider, handles the auth layer itself, so a…

In what way is Spotify better than a Google / FB login? Isn't it the same kind of shitty?

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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post #289

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> I'd love to see adoption numbers for in-browser password managers, though, because I feel it's not very high yet. Why specifically in-browser?

Because without that the argument of "everyone has a password manager" fails. Tons of people don't have 1Password or Bitwarden or Lastpass or KeypassXC or whatever. So sure, they might technically have a password manager installed, in that every major browser has a password manager included. But do they actually use it? That's what really matters.

Yeah, this is why. "in-browser" was unclear when I also meant the iOS ecosystem password manager and stuff.

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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Can confirm on Hetzner. I'm building a SaaS on it right now and had to request a VPS limit increase. I was so worried and carefully crafted my request message. I was bracing for a multi-day back-and-forth but they just... did it in like 10 minutes lol

> The pricing is almost absurdly good compared to AWS, and the performance is solid. If you've never spun up a Hetzner box, you're overpaying for cloud compute.

Yep!

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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post #49

> Your users expect "Sign in with Google" and "Sign in with Apple." You can add email/password and passkeys, but removing social logins entirely is a conversion killer. I know this is true, but I genuinely don't understand it. I want email/password and passkey, I will always go out of my way to avoid "Sign in with ...". I just don't get why people love this.

You really don't? It's just a ton easier for most users: it's (almost) like already having an account. Just click a couple times and you're in, no typing at all, no email confirmation or anything like that. I also avoid it because I'm concerned about being over-reliant on google (what if they close my account?) and I know how to use a password manager, but I easily understand how 90-99% of the population doesn't care…

> I also avoid it because I'm concerned about being over-reliant on google (what if they close my account?)

Most if the "sign-in with google" accounts I have seen treat it as a shortcut to creating and logging in with an account with the primary email address of the Google account. So you can hit "reset password" and get a conventional password log-in to an account you previously made with the Google auth. If you get locked out of google, it's NBD.

Of course, this is probably not universally the case.

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