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Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan launches dark-money group to influence CA politics

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Re: Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan launches dark-money group to influence CA politics

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You’re discussing raising corporate or individual income tax rates. I’m discussing a proposed broad wealth tax on unrealized gains and assets. The tax rates of the 50s were high, but were filled with loopholes and deductions in that the effective tax rate that was actually paid was much lower. There are arguments to be made how much those policies contributed to the boom of that decade, but those are separate to argu…

>but were filled with loopholes and deductions in that the effective tax rate that was actually paid was much lower. Yes, thanks for reiterating my main point. Now if we use that same mindset and apply it to a wealth tax... Hence my main point. Taxes aren't all about extraction of money, they also help to nudge people to do things they normally wouldn't do. So nudging them to actually help the area they are in is rea…

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Re: Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan launches dark-money group to influence CA politics

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You’re discussing raising corporate or individual income tax rates. I’m discussing a proposed broad wealth tax on unrealized gains and assets. The tax rates of the 50s were high, but were filled with loopholes and deductions in that the effective tax rate that was actually paid was much lower. There are arguments to be made how much those policies contributed to the boom of that decade, but those are separate to argu…

>but were filled with loopholes and deductions in that the effective tax rate that was actually paid was much lower. Yes, thanks for reiterating my main point. Now if we use that same mindset and apply it to a wealth tax... Hence my main point. Taxes aren't all about extraction of money, they also help to nudge people to do things they normally wouldn't do. So nudging them to actually help the area they are in is rea…

If they leave (and some already have) they take their tax base with them. Not just for this one time levy, but for future tax years too.

Then where will the state go to make up the revenue shortfall? Either raising taxes on other groups or cutting services.

I’m finished discussing this matter, let’s revisit this if and when this actually gets passed so we can see how much revenue was actually generated (or if it even survived legal challenges)

Re: Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan launches dark-money group to influence CA politics

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Perhaps he should reflect on why they deserve this violence, instead of giving people more reason for violence against him.

An Indian American man deserved to be smashed in the back of the head with a hammer?

What does this have to do with Garry Tan and CA, it happened in Georgia?

Re: Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan launches dark-money group to influence CA politics

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And where will we get the money to fund this fantasy land in 8 months after the government runs out of money and we’ve already stolen all the billionaires assets? Should we move on to anyone with a net worth over $1M and start stealing their assets too?

> And where will we get the money to fund this fantasy land ... What are you talking about? Current administration is doing exactly that. Cutting taxes for the wealthy and adding all those loses to national debt at record level increments. No fiscal responsibility at all. Total fantasy and essentially poor and middle-class funds the rich through their taxes (and government money printer), not to mention how mega comp…

> America was already taxing wealthy through the teeth years ago

Except they weren’t. Those lovely 90% tax rates from the 1950s everyone on Reddit loves to bring up weren’t really paid by anyone. The effective tax rate paid after the loopholes and deductions was much lower, closer to 40%

Re: Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan launches dark-money group to influence CA politics

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I support some sort of disincentive to prevent HNW individuals from borrowing against assets for income. I do not support wealth taxes or taxing unrealized gains (unless you get rebates for unrealized losses lol) There SHOULD be some mechanism (idk what) to close the loophole of HNW individuals borrowing against an asset you have not sold to minimize actual income, but that doesn't mean its right, effective, or even…

no, its not. Articulate an alternative or deal with a non-optimal solution. The status quo currently is leading to civil war.

I literally said there should be some sort of final penalty or taxable event associated with borrowing against illiquid assets and unrealized gains for very HNW individuals.

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I want to do some improvements on my house. So I take out a home equity loan. Oops! Actually since my house is worth $500K more than when I bought it, now I have to pay $100K to the government since the gain is now realized by using the asset as collateral!

You get points for effective use of rhetoric, but it's more of a solvable challenge and not a deal breaker. The goal of a borrowing tax would be to prevent someone with a a $200 mil stock portfolio living off the "buy, borrow, die" strategy and not home equity loans on mere middle class millionaires. Capital gains, for example, on a primary residence already have an exclusion of a certain amount. There's no reason a…

The buy borrow die strategy is made up and absolutely laughable to anybody who knows anything about finance. It is not used by anybody.

Re: Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan launches dark-money group to influence CA politics

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And you have every right to express that annoyance without fear of prosecution. I find the Epstein affair to be very underwhelming. Running a prostitution ring is criminal, and rich men (or poor men) fucking a 17 year old (or 18 year old) prostitute is gross, but not particularly surprising, and isn't even pedophilia. If Epstein had been in Nevada and not the US Virgin Islands and his youngest girls were a year older…

The files I'm referring to aren't talking about 17yo people, and you know this very well Edit and I'm not referring to prostitution, you know this as well

Oh so you mean the random anonymous tips and allegations with absolutely no evidence behind them that only retards believe

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> Garry Tan, the local venture capitalist who has for years railed against progressive politicians on social media You mean Garry, who has protested the dumbing down of schools? Garry, who protests removing math from the curriculum? He's "railed against progressive politicians" by supporting education and high achievement? You know China and Asia are laughing at us, right? They do schooling right. We are so backwards…

So are Elon, JPMorgan Chase and IBM "anti-education"?

From the article you linked:

“I think the value of a college education is somewhat overweighted,” Musk said in a video he later reposted on X. “Too many people spend four years, accumulate a ton of debt, and often don’t have useful skills that they can apply afterwards.”

And because some young people have already caught on—and begun exploring alternative education pathways—many companies like JPMorgan Chase and IBM have scaled back their degree requirements on job postings. Michael Bush, the CEO of Great Place to Work, predicts this trend will only continue to grow.

“Almost everyone is realizing that they’re missing out on great talent by having a degree requirement,” he previously told Fortune. “That snowball is just growing.”

Re: Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan launches dark-money group to influence CA politics

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> And where will we get the money to fund this fantasy land ... What are you talking about? Current administration is doing exactly that. Cutting taxes for the wealthy and adding all those loses to national debt at record level increments. No fiscal responsibility at all. Total fantasy and essentially poor and middle-class funds the rich through their taxes (and government money printer), not to mention how mega comp…

> America was already taxing wealthy through the teeth years ago Except they weren’t. Those lovely 90% tax rates from the 1950s everyone on Reddit loves to bring up weren’t really paid by anyone. The effective tax rate paid after the loopholes and deductions was much lower, closer to 40%

let's make _effective tax rate_ 40% then...

Re: Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan launches dark-money group to influence CA politics

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Lots of billionaires should probably be at the hague. But we should be glad if people can become billionaires because they are generating that much value of both parties being better off, without imposing externalities on others. Yvonne Chouinard came close to this ideal, I think. If someone can genuinely generate billions in value, not just by imposing externalities on others that they then reallocate to themselves,…

No we shouldn't be "glad that people can become billionaire". We should be glad that people can get reasonable wealthy, say, $100M net worth would be more than plenty, and would ensure that: people who worked hard got a lot ($100M!!), but nobody alone or in very small numbers can try to destroy the fabric of society Is that hard for you to understand? The fact that at your age you're still mistaking "generating billi…

I'm not glad they can become billionaires for their sake. I'm glad they can become billionaires for your and my sake, under the ideal I proposed, which is that billionaires can become that way only by entering into transactions where all sides are better off for doing so.
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