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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by eulers_secret »

mirekrusin wrote: post #186
timr wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. No, there is Github Copilot, the AI agent tool that also has autocomplete, and a chat UI. I understand your point about naming, but it's always helpful to know what the products do.

...it gets better: GitHub Copilot is a service, you can buy subscription from here https://github.com/features/copilot . GitHub Copilot is available from website https://github.com/copilot together with services like Spark (not available from other places), Spaces, Agents etc. GitHub Copilot is VSCode extension which you can download at https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=GitHub.c... and use from VSCo…

Since we're talking about GitHub Copilot I'll lodge my biggest complaint about it here! The context window is stuck at 128k for all models (except maybe Codex): https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/264153 and https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/issues/5993

This absolutely sucks, especially since tool calling uses tokens really really fast sometimes. Feels like a not-so-gentle nudge to using their 'official' tooling (read: vscode); even though there was a recent announcement about how GHCP works with opencode: https://github.blog/changelog/2026-01-16-github-copilot-now-...

No mention of it being severely gimped by the context limit in that press release, of course (tbf, why would they lol).

However, if you go back to aider, 128K tokens is a lot, same with web chat... not a total killer, but I wouldn't spend my money on that particular service with there being better options!

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by theflyinghorse »

superfrank wrote: post #310

I feel like I must be missing something, but I just cannot understand the hype around Claude Code. Don't get me wrong, I'm fully bought in on using AI for development and am super happy to use Copilot or Cursor, but as an experienced developer just chatting with the terminal feels so wrong. I've tried it so many times to switch and I can't get into it. Can anyone else share what their workflow with CC looks like? Eve…

Workflow is this: - I have emacs open for code editing/reviews/git. - Separate terminal emulator with 1-3 claudes - I work on a story by splitting it into small steps ("Let's move this email logic to the email.service.ts", "here's the fields I'd need to add to the request, create a schema validation in a separate file, and update the router and controller") - I mostly watch claude, and occasionally walk through the code in emacs whenever I feel like I want to review code. - I handle external tools like git or db migrations myself not letting LLMs near them.

In essence, this is pretty much how you'd run a group of juniors - you'd sit on slack and jira diving up work and doing code reviews.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by fluidcruft »

estimator7292 wrote: post #305
moomin wrote: post #300

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There’s got to be solid reasons why they do this and have done so for so damn long. At the very least institutional reasons. At best, actual research that suggests they make more money this way. But as a consumer, I hate it.

Marketing has too much power. They get some hairbrained scheme to goose the numbers and just slam a mandate all the way down the org. Is "Copilot" not getting enough clicks? Make every button say "copilot", problem solved. Marketing doesn't know or care what was there before, someone needs numbers up to get their promotion.

It's marketing but I think they want everything to seem like an integrated platform so they can sell you on creeping into bundles.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by Nevermark »

torginus wrote: post #246
pixl97 wrote: post #236

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It's a word play, if their LLM model sucks too much they'll get someone else's. I mean they fought the browser war for years, then just used Chrome.

Which is kind of a bummer - it'd have helped the standards based web to have an actual powerful entity maintain a distinct implementation. Firefox is on life-support and is basically taking code from Blink wholesale, and Webkit isn't really interested in making a browser thats particularly compliant to web standards. MS's calculus was obvious - why spend insane amounts of engineering effort to make a browser engine t…

It would have helped the standards based web, if the standards based web wasn't a fermenting spaghetti monster.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by phkahler »

estimator7292 wrote: post #305
moomin wrote: post #300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s got to be solid reasons why they do this and have done so for so damn long. At the very least institutional reasons. At best, actual research that suggests they make more money this way. But as a consumer, I hate it.

Marketing has too much power. They get some hairbrained scheme to goose the numbers and just slam a mandate all the way down the org. Is "Copilot" not getting enough clicks? Make every button say "copilot", problem solved. Marketing doesn't know or care what was there before, someone needs numbers up to get their promotion.

>> Is "Copilot" not getting enough clicks? Make every button say "copilot", problem solved. Marketing doesn't know or care what was there before, someone needs numbers up to get their promotion.

So Microsoft isn't bringing copilot to all these applications? It's just bringing a copilot label to them? So glad I don't use this garbage at home.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by strongpigeon »

superfrank wrote: post #310

I feel like I must be missing something, but I just cannot understand the hype around Claude Code. Don't get me wrong, I'm fully bought in on using AI for development and am super happy to use Copilot or Cursor, but as an experienced developer just chatting with the terminal feels so wrong. I've tried it so many times to switch and I can't get into it. Can anyone else share what their workflow with CC looks like? Eve…

I use it like having a bunch of L3/L4 engineers. I give them a description of the changes I want to be made, sometimes chat a bit with it to help them design the features and then tell them to have a go at it. Then I create PRs and review them and have them clean up/improve the code and merge it. I try to balance giving it enough stuff to build so I can switch to another agent, and not giving them too much so that they make a weird assumption and run really far with it.

I got really good at reviewing code efficiently from my time at Google and others, which helps a lot. I'm sure my personal career experience influences a lot how I'm using it.

FWIW, I use Codex CLI, but I assume my flow would be the same with Claude Code.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by Nevermark »

jacquesm wrote: post #149
bobsmooth wrote: post #147

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Recall actually sounds like it could be useful but there's a snowball's chance in hell that I would trust Microsoft to not spy on me.

On the contrary, you could trust it 100% to spy on you. That's the whole reason that functionality exists.

Always trust people. Trust people to be themselves.

For some reason, people have great cognitive difficulty with defensive trust. Charlie Brown, Sally.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by MattGrommes »

torginus wrote: post #261
smithkl42 wrote: post #207

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I'm one of those really odd beasts that feels some sort of loyalty to Microsoft, so I started out on Copilot and was very reluctant to try Claude Code. But as soon as I did, I figured out what the hype was about. It's just able to work over larger code bases and over longer time horizons than Copilot. The last time I tried Copilot, just to compare, I noticed that it would make some number of tool calls (not even invo…

I don't really like how Claude Code kind of obscures the actual code from you - I guess that's why people keep putting out articles about how certain programmers have absolutely no idea whats going on inside the code. It's truly more capable but still not capable enough that Im comfortable blindly trusting the output.

That's the big difference for me. I use Github Copilot because I want to see the output and work with it. For people who are fine just shooting a prompt out and getting code back, I'm sure Claude Code is better.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by stackghost »

anonymars wrote: post #315
estimator7292 wrote: post #309

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Try going on LinkedIn and searching for C# and .net jobs. Completely impossible. The search is bad to begin with, but it explicitly ignores anything that isn't a-9.

Ha, I stand corrected. Maybe Microsoft could reach out to the owners of LinkedIn to convince them to improve it. Oh, wait...

>LinkedIn

You mean Microsoft Career Copilot 365?

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