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Re: Prism

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I once took a philosophy class where an essay assignment had a minimum citation count. Obviously ridiculous, since a philosophical argument should follow a chain of reasoning starting at stated axioms. Citing a paper to defend your position is just an appeal to authority (a fallacy that they teach you about in the same class). The citation requirement allowed the class to fulfill a curricular requirement that student…

Huh? It's quite sensible to make reference to someone else's work when writing a philosophy paper, and there are many ways to do so that do not amount to an appeal to authority.

He's point is that they asked for a minimum number of references not references in general

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I know many people have negative opinions about this. I'd also like to share what I saw. Since GPT-4o became a thing, everyone who submits academic papers I know in my non-english speaking country (N > 5) has been writing papers in our native language and translating them with GPT-4o exclusively . It has been the norm for quite a while. If hallucination is such a serious problem it has been so for one and half a year…

It's quite a safe case if you maintain provenance because there is a ground truth to compare to, namely the untranslated paper.

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> The Post-LLM World: Fighting Digital Garbage https://archive.org/details/paper_20260127/mode/2up This appears to just be the output of LLMs itself? It credits GPT-5.2 and Gemini 3 exclusively as authors, has a public domain license (appropriate for AI output) and is only several paragraphs in length.

Which proves its own points! Absolutely genius! The cost asymmetry of producing and checking for garbage truly is becoming a problem in the recent years, with the advent of LLMs and generative AI in general.

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Re: Prism

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It feels generally a bit dangerous to use an AI product to work on research when (1) it's free and (2) the company hosting it makes money by shipping productized research

Re: Prism

#325
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I wonder if there's a way to tax the frivolous submissions. There could be a submission fee that would be fully reimbursed iff the submission is actually accepted for publication. If you're confident in your paper, you can think of it as a deposit. If you're spamming journals, you're just going to pay for the wasted time. Maybe you get reimbursed for half as long as there are no obvious hallucinations.

If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law exists only for the lower class In other words, such a structure would not dissuade bad actors with large financial incentives to push something through a process that grants validity to a hypothesis. A fine isn't going to stop tobacco companies from spamming submissions that say smoking doesn't cause lung cancer or social media companies from spamming submissions t…

I'm sure my crude idea has it's shortcomings, but this feels superfluous. Deep-pocketed propagandists can do all sorts of things to pump their message whether a slop tax exists or not. There may or may not be existing countermeasures at journals for that. This just isn't really about that. It's about making sure that, in the process of spamming the journal, they also fund the review process, which would otherwise simply bleed time and money.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The Post-LLM World: Fighting Digital Garbage https://archive.org/details/paper_20260127/mode/2up This appears to just be the output of LLMs itself? It credits GPT-5.2 and Gemini 3 exclusively as authors, has a public domain license (appropriate for AI output) and is only several paragraphs in length.

Which proves its own points! Absolutely genius! The cost asymmetry of producing and checking for garbage truly is becoming a problem in the recent years, with the advent of LLMs and generative AI in general.

Totally agree!

I feel like this means that working in any group where individuals compete against each other results in an AI vs AI content generation competition, where the human is stuck verifying/reviewing.

Re: Prism

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post #32

From my perspective as a journal editor and a reviewer these kinds of tools cause many more problems than they actually solve. They make the 'barrier to entry' for submitting vibed semi-plausible journal articles much lower, which I understand some may see as a benefit. The drawback is that scientific editors and reviewers provide those services for free, as a community benefit. One example was a submission their und…

This dynamic would create even more gate-keeping using credentials, which is already a problem with academia.

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#328
LaTeX was one of the last bastions against AI slop. Sadly it's now fallen too. Is there any standardised non-AI disclaimer format which is gaining use?

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This is going to be the concrete block which finally breaks the back of the academic peer review system, i.e. it's going to be a DDoS attack on a system which didn't even handle the load before LLMs.

Maybe we'll need to go back to some sort of proof-of-work system, i.e. only accepting physical mailed copies of manuscripts, possibly hand-written...

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