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Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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Re: Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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A giant, multinational, multi-trillion-dollar corporation that will only bargain with individual people living paycheck-to-paycheck? Huh, what a weird power imbalance! Surely it doesn't have anything to do with their documented history of treating their blue-collar workforce like utter garbage.

I think Amazon are largely shitheads to their low level workers (and still assholes even to mid-level workers), and I am in no way defending them. I'm in fact sickened by them. I will never work for Amazon. But the implication above was that the non-union employee is the "sub-human" option. I find that attitude pretty gross too. Humans are human whether they are union members or not.

> But the implication above was that the non-union employee is the "sub-human" option. I find that attitude pretty gross too.

Ok, fine, but the OP never said this, you are the only person talking about this.

Re: Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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> I feel like they artificially made their prices super low for the last couple years and intentionally operated at a loss as a business tactic to force out competition iirc that's exactly what Amazon did to destroy diapers.com over a decade ago

Amazon did not destroy diapers.com. Diapers.com aka Quidsi was already operating at a loss when it was acquired by Amazon. It's whole business model was using VC-funding to offer products below sustainable costs with the goal of eventually jacking up prices once they drove out smaller/local competitors. Amazon used its own business model against it by dropping prices even lower, knowing that the VC investors couldn't…

Walmart bought out jet.com

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet.com

Re: Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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Wegmans opened a store at the Brooklyn Navy Yard just to show people in NYC what a real supermarket looks like. I mean, you might be impressed with Whole Foods if all you know are those bodegas that have around NYC but if you've been to a real supermarket Whole Foods, Amazon Fresh and such are not impressive at all.

This comment completely misunderstands why NYC (and the core of most major cities) is not impressed by a supermarket. Wegmans is popular because Wegmansnis good. But if you have a local baker, a local grocer, a local deli, and a small grocery store within the same block, all within walking distance of your apartment, you don’t need to deal with the hassles of finding stuff within a massive supermarket. You get the hi…

It’s normal in London to live a few min walk to bakery, grocery, deli, so on but we still have supermarkets - from smaller ones to large hypermarkets. Everyone uses them and they sell good quality products.

The same is true in every European city I’ve been to. There’s a large hypermarket a short walk from the Arc de Triomphe and you can hardly say Parisians don’t have a good choice of local bakeries, cheesemongers and butchers.

It’s true you won’t usually get something like a Target or Costco in the central area, but in the slightly further out suburbs (e.g. Z2 in London) where most people actually live, Europe is full of supermarkets.

Re: Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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This comment completely misunderstands why NYC (and the core of most major cities) is not impressed by a supermarket. Wegmans is popular because Wegmansnis good. But if you have a local baker, a local grocer, a local deli, and a small grocery store within the same block, all within walking distance of your apartment, you don’t need to deal with the hassles of finding stuff within a massive supermarket. You get the hi…

> Further, when you don’t have to drive 20-30 mins to go to a grocery store but the stores you need are within a 5 min walk, Once you get used to have everything at a walking distance, you wonder how you could put up with having to drive to a supermarket. Two are the main advantages. The first is that you don't need to plan much in advance. Want to make hamburger tonight ? Cross the street, get meat from the butcher,…

Small car towns are more or less the same. I drive 10 minutes to work, the stores are all on the way. It's easy to stop anytime.

The more local one is medium sized and I've been shopping there for years, so I don't really have to find anything.

I should go to the butcher that's a few blocks away more often though.

Re: Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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Walmart isn't a budget grocery store, though. Its prices are higher than actual grocery stores (like Safeway.) Also, everyone is WAY cheaper than Instacart.

>Walmart isn't a budget grocery store, The answer to this is complex, it has any number of products that are cheaper than products of similar quality from any other store. Places like Safeway/Aldi typically beat on price on very generic items that may or may not have similar quality. The biggest thing to watch for at Walmart is price discrimination dependent on location. Back in the days I used to shop with them (rea…

I found Lowes (hardware) to be one of the worst about this. I lived in an area with 4 Lowes, and never shopped at my local one because of how much more expensive everything was, and never clearance. I'm not talking a couple dollars, in some cases 4x the price of one just 15 minutes away.

Re: Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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Illegal in what way? They are not allowed to set prices lower than competitors or raise them at any time?

Predatory pricing is illegal in the US, but difficult to prosecute under the existing laws.

Which means it’s actually: legal and widespread

Re: Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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Nobody on this forum believes in startups or technology anymore.

Heck, Elon's ownership of SpaceX even got to me to not really care about space travel anymore, one of my biggest passions since I was 6. But I just can't root for whatever his vision of space faring society would look like.

Kessler syndrome, but every debris piece is a Starlink transceiver.

Re: Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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At a certain point it's not about technology anymore, but access to cheap finance. See also: Uber.

Uber is far better for me than the old taxi system.

Maybe the one where you flagged down a car on the street, but you could always call to book a taxi and those companies worked exactly like Uber — over the phone, because it was the pre–app era.

Re: Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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Doesn’t surprise me. I frequently shop at Amazon Fresh in store and it’s a mediocre experience. It’s a poorly run store with no visible manager making sure things are in order. You constantly have to work around employees fulfilling online orders and they aren’t helpful. I always find expired groceries/produce on the shelf so I have to spend a lot of extra time inspecting each item. The only reason I put up with thei…

lol are you me? There was also a loophole with the coupons where it only used the total before discounts to validate the limit was met, so you could buy something that was $10 or 2 for $15, but the 2 would count as $20 towards your $40 limit.

I moved away from Seattle a while back so I'm not sure if they ever closed that one. I really miss getting all those cheap groceries!

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