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Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by golden-face »

arcanemachiner wrote: post #196
golden-face wrote: post #153

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Can you expand on this? For example details on any tools to do this. I've been trying to disable features I know use resources and aren't needed but the native UIs to do it are hella confusing and feel purposely useless.

Google "windows 11 debloat reddit". There are several tools: - https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat (recommended elsewhere in this thread) - https://christitus.com/windows-tool/ (I used this one a couple weeks ago, seems to work well) But seriously though, learn to fish. The answers aren't hard to find if you look, know what to search for, and are at least somewhat discriminating in your investigation.

Having fished I have found the fish hard to catch so thought I would ask from another fisher.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by nineteen999 »

Aurornis wrote: post #68
nilamo wrote: post #20

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I, too, am irrationally furious at microsoft for forcing me to look at nature scapes and offering a link to learn more if I wanted.

Reading HN threads about Windows makes me wonder some times if I’m using a completely different version of Windows on my workstation. I guess I also haven’t seen any “propaganda” among my rotating selection of landscape scenery.

My last Windows PC shipped from the vendor with all the tiles and ads and live updates already disabled. I don't know why I see so many other people struggling with turning them off on here.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by golden-face »

golden-face wrote: post #153
dataflow wrote: post #73

Windows 11 is fast enough if you... disable a million things on it that >99% of users wouldn't know when/how to, or wouldn't want to. Definitely depressing.

Can you expand on this? For example details on any tools to do this. I've been trying to disable features I know use resources and aren't needed but the native UIs to do it are hella confusing and feel purposely useless.

Also friendlies for the record the person I was responding to mentioned millions of settings, which while hyperbolic, you and I know means just hard to find so please share all fishing tips and other notes.

For the record I am also with you that using WinDebloat is not the best way for the simplest reason that it all seems arbitrary.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by cmxch »

emeril wrote: post #290
cmxch wrote: post #252

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Form an LLC and present yourself as a small business interested in IoT.

or just buy a cd key from a wholesaler for $20 :) probably won't be disconnected... been using such a cd key for months w/o issue and my win11 experience isn't that painful

Indeed, but for all the cases where I’d want to use IoT Windows, such as small scale NVRs, I have opted for Debian/Ubuntu/RHEL.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by kyboren »

ipdashc wrote: post #200
kyboren wrote: post #162

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I've been pretty much exclusively Linux-based for over a decade now, but I used every version of Windows from 3.11 to Windows 7, so I still have some muscle memory from the good ol' days. Recently I was helping a relative do something on their Windows 11 machine and I asked them to press Windows key + R, type calc, press Enter. And I was astonished at the result. Literally: Mouth agape, frozen in astonishment for abo…

Bit of a clickbaity way of phrasing it, but I'm also curious what the result was? From googling it I don't see any stories about recent changes to the calculator app, other than a few features like graphing.

I'm sorry, I wasn't intentionally trying to write clickbait, I was just agreeing with the parent and did not consider how it would come off to other parties.

What happens is the calculator window pops up ~immediately, but the entire contents of the window are a stupid logo--for at least 5 full seconds--until the UI elements actually load and you can actually use the calculator to calculate things.

The most basic thing our PCs do is they calculate. The Intel 4004 was designed... for a calculator. calc.exe, that erstwhile snappy, lightweight native Win32 application is now apparently some Electron abomination with a footprint the size of Windows 98 and a launch time to match.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

user205738 wrote: post #256
Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #225

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Because of hyprland. There aren't many alternatives with hyprland (or niri) preconfigured for you

It's not such a difficult task to set up hyprland. And niri doesn't even need to be configured, the default configuration performs all the required tasks.

From my understanding, to get something at the level of omarchy you need to setup multiple pieces of software. In the end it has to replace the whole "desktop"

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by hshdhdhj4444 »

aeon_ai wrote: post #229
hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #173

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If you want an OS to simply do stuff Linux is now clearly superior. However, I found Omarchy to be whatever the opposite of a sweet spot is. It brings all the complications of a tiling WM, so you still have to learn a complicated new way of using your system, but at the same time it is extremely opinionated so instead of ending with a tailored custom tiling WM that suits your needs at the end of the learning curve, y…

To each their own. I find Omarchy to simply "make sense" out of the box for me. And, I've never used a tiling WM before it (and feel crazy for not having done so)

I guess that’s the difference.

I have used a tiling WM before.

So I wonder whether the benefits you’re seeing in Omarchy are simply the result of using a tiling WM for the first time, which overrode what I believe Omarchy detracted from a general tiling WM.

Or whether my poorer experience was a result of the fact that having used a tiling WM I was more comfortable customizing and so found the Omarchy opinionated behavior restrictive or if the benefits Omarchy brings to someone who’s new to a tiling WM are lost on me.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by hshdhdhj4444 »

zaruvi wrote: post #267
hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #176

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Apparently this is not entirely true. It’s just a section of the start menu that’s based on React/React Native.

Regardless, at least a few of my colleagues using Windows have reported issues with the new start menu. It seems very slow, and sometimes you have to close & reopen it for content to appear.

Oh completely agreed on the start menu being slower.

I don’t use it anymore. Fortunately since my windows usage is restricted only to work and I have an ultra wide monitor, I’m able to pin all the apps I need on the taskbar. With the Win + # shortcuts I can avoid the start menu completely.

In the past I didn’t use the taskbar at all and depended on Win + search entirely.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by Narishma »

arcanemachiner wrote: post #191
Aldipower wrote: post #145

Just an anecdote from yesterday. I got an old Pentium 4 1,5Ghz from a friend, put a Terratec EWX 24/96 soundcard in, installed WinXP, turned automatic updates off and installed a software synth, Native Instruments FM7, connected a midi keyboard via the gameport. Literally 2ms latency and no midi jitter! With an 25 years old setup! And it just works, without any distractions. Really, I almost cried as I saw that. I fe…

I had a similar experience when helping a friend's parent with an absolutely ancient laptop from like 2007, which which had a crappy Celeron, 256 MB of RAM, and Widnoes Vista. The damn thing was shockingly performant. We have been played for absolute fools.

I don't believe that. Can Vista even run with just 256MB of RAM?
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