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Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

jameshart wrote: post #319
ktg0215 wrote: post #8

This is how "end of support" should be handled. Instead of turning devices into e-waste, open-source them and let the community extend their life. Kudos to Bose for setting a good example. More companies should follow this approach - especially as right-to-repair becomes a bigger issue.

It's definitely laudable. But does raise the question... why was the API not open in the first place.

It actually was. Everyone in this thread has completely missed the fact that nothing has been opened at all. (see other threads for details)

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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ktg0215 wrote: post #8

This is how "end of support" should be handled. Instead of turning devices into e-waste, open-source them and let the community extend their life. Kudos to Bose for setting a good example. More companies should follow this approach - especially as right-to-repair becomes a bigger issue.

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Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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Post by astrange »

awesome_dude wrote: post #307
daseiner1 wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you elaborate? Because my understanding is that Apple has offered outstanding support for older devices in terms of iOS support for quite old devices.

Whilst the support might be "outstanding" - the discussion is what happens once devices are no longer supported.

You can't release all the documentation just because the entire phone isn't supported. Many of the components come from other suppliers and aren't obsolete, and you can't just reveal all your suppliers' IP.

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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Post by astrange »

tw04 wrote: post #252
Wafje wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bose should not receive praise for this move. Bose only took this action after community backlash. In an older version of their end-of-life announcement, most functionality of the speaker systems would have removed and transformed the devices into dumb-speakers/amps. Good that they changed their statement and took the right action. Even better for the community for stepping up and 'forcing' Bose to do so. Sources: ht…

> Bose should not receive praise for this move. Remind me of any other vendor in recent history that end of lifed a hardware product and then open sourced it whether they got backlash or not. Because I can’t think of a single one. So yes, Bose absolutely deserves praise.

Pebble?

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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Post by astrange »

tstrimple wrote: post #207
PaulHoule wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Build quality of Bose products is good in my opinion. The headphones are alright but so are Sony, Plantronics and Apple. I love the sound of Airpods Pro in particular even if they don't want to stay in my ears [1] and the pairing experience even with the iPhone isn't what I expect of >$100 headphones in 2016. If you want really good stereo or 5.1 sound there is no substitute for big speakers that can move a lot of ai…

If you haven't tried foam replacement tips, they make a world of difference for me. I couldn't use the airpods (non-pro) at all. I could barely use the silicon tipped pros. But when I put a foam tip on them it not only blocks out ambient sound better, they stay in place. Unfortunately the foam wears out rather quickly and I replace them around three times a year.

Sedna CrystalEarFit worked the best for me on older AirPods. Pure foam tips have a noticeably different sound profile.

On the newest ones, the tips have a foam core inside them.

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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Post by astrange »

drnick1 wrote: post #179
senshan wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please suggest better alternatives

Beyerdynamic DT1990s run circles around consumer-grade stuff.

I can't stand Beyerdynamic audio and don't understand why anyone recommends it. It has an awful treble peak you can't stop noticing once you hear it, and you can't drive their headphones without an amp.

I recommend HiFiMan Sundara/Ananda if they fit your head and there aren't any CPU fans in your room.

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

LastTrain wrote: post #156

As others have said already, they are just un-obscuring the server API and restoring local control to your speakers when they discontinue the service. There is nothing noble about this, it is almost least they could do. I walked away from a large investment in Sonos gear over forcing legacy equipment into the cloud, this sort of thing is why.

It's the speaker API, not the server API

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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Post by [deleted] »

Wafje wrote: post #225
ktg0215 wrote: post #8

This is how "end of support" should be handled. Instead of turning devices into e-waste, open-source them and let the community extend their life. Kudos to Bose for setting a good example. More companies should follow this approach - especially as right-to-repair becomes a bigger issue.

Bose should not receive praise for this move. Bose only took this action after community backlash. In an older version of their end-of-life announcement, most functionality of the speaker systems would have removed and transformed the devices into dumb-speakers/amps. Good that they changed their statement and took the right action. Even better for the community for stepping up and 'forcing' Bose to do so. Sources: ht…

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Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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Post by [deleted] »

awesome_dude wrote: post #307
daseiner1 wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you elaborate? Because my understanding is that Apple has offered outstanding support for older devices in terms of iOS support for quite old devices.

Whilst the support might be "outstanding" - the discussion is what happens once devices are no longer supported.

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Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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Post by tjpnz »

sjs382 wrote: post #283
tw04 wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Bose should not receive praise for this move. Remind me of any other vendor in recent history that end of lifed a hardware product and then open sourced it whether they got backlash or not. Because I can’t think of a single one. So yes, Bose absolutely deserves praise.

Google refunded all Stadia purchases, both hardware and software, after they discontinued the platform/product. Then they added functionality (the ability to operate the controller as a generic Bluetooth controller) afterward to keep the hardware from becoming e-waste.

Cheaper than the class action which would've followed given Stadia's relatively short life.
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