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Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by max_ »

fabbbbb wrote: post #292

Unfortunately there seems to be no good aligned definition of what (highly) processed food is. 1,2 Whole grain bread or infant formula can be “highly processed” despite very healthy. In the end someone else cooks for you and packages it. They can cook healthy or not or in between, add a lot of salt or little, .. as always it’s more complex. 1: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41430-022-01099-1 2 https://www.cambridge…

>Whole grain bread or infant formula are “highly processed” despite very healthy.

"processed" and "healthy" are oxymorons.

I think it's better to tell people to restrict themselves to "whole foods".

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

torben-friis wrote: post #240
criddell wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the zeitgeist is starting to turn on the high-protein diet recommendations: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2025/11/looking-to-bu... There was a story about this in the NYT recently (can't find it) and IIRC, it basically said protein is out and fiber is in. It wasn't that simple, but that was my takeaway.

Fiber is stupidly easy to supplement, something that’s not talked about enough. A glass of water with psylium husk a day and you solve a lot of modern diet problems.its also super cheap,a $20 bag can last you a year.

Supplements don't seem to work as well as getting fibre from your diet.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by lazyasciiart »

fooker wrote: post #297
parl_match wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a weightlifter and as part of my training, I eat pretty close to about a pound of meat a day during bulk, usually about 12-14oz. This is because I need to eat about 200g of protein a day. I supplement it with protein shakes. I find that to be a challenging amount of meat. It's a lot! And to find out that's average ??? Americans eat way too much meat. Cheese, too.

> And to find out that's average??? I think you’re conflating 200g of protein with 200g of meat that has protein.

They said “I eat pretty close to about a pound of meat a day during bulk, usually about 12-14oz”

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by sdo72 »

I don't think it's even about low carb vs. high protein to begin with. Many countries and regions in the world are fine with a high-carb diet, and people there live long, healthy lives.

Americans eat so much processed food simply because it is much cheaper than fresh food. Processed food is made to get consumers addicted (through convenience, taste, etc.) and encourage them to consume much more. Fresh food is almost the opposite.

I grew up in a country where freshly made food is actually cheaper than processed food, even to this day. People who stick to a traditional diet are mostly thin, while those who stick to a processed food diet gain a lot of weight.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by ComplexSystems »

great_wubwub wrote: post #256
zeroonetwothree wrote: post #191

For all the lunacy of RFK this somehow is actually a really good set of guidelines? Certainly better than the previous version. I didn't expect that to be honest.

The man is stark raving bonkers mad in that head-in-the-sand, if-I-ignore-science-then-it-can't-hurt-me way but (and OMG I think I'm going to throw up a little in my mouth even coming close to agreeing with anything that come out of his mouth) isn't that basically what we've been doing with dietary guidelines since the 80s? Like, don't get me wrong, RFK will kill N*10^5, N*10^6 people with his outlook on diseases, bu…

"Isn't that basically what we've been doing with dietary guidelines since the 80s?"

If by this you mean to ask if the new guidelines are the same as previous ones from the 80s, then no. The new pyramid is different, makes different recommendations (more meat, for instance, and less wheat and grains). The website linked to explicitly shows how it is different from the previous "food pyramid" guidelines.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by buellerbueller »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #270
zeroonetwothree wrote: post #191

For all the lunacy of RFK this somehow is actually a really good set of guidelines? Certainly better than the previous version. I didn't expect that to be honest.

A stopped clock is right twice a day. These recommendations come from a corrupted source and therefore have no value.

...but you just made the argument that corrupted sources can be, on occasion, correct.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by didibus »

aero142 wrote: post #75

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The only change from the previous dietary recommendations that I can see is that they recommend a bit of a smaller portion of veggies and a bit of a bigger portion of protein. Everything else seems exactly the same.

I think it's mostly just that there's loud talking points now and they're marketing it heavily to make it feel like it's their idea when it's already been the official guidelines for a while.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by lazyasciiart »

max_ wrote: post #321
fabbbbb wrote: post #292

Unfortunately there seems to be no good aligned definition of what (highly) processed food is. 1,2 Whole grain bread or infant formula can be “highly processed” despite very healthy. In the end someone else cooks for you and packages it. They can cook healthy or not or in between, add a lot of salt or little, .. as always it’s more complex. 1: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41430-022-01099-1 2 https://www.cambridge…

>Whole grain bread or infant formula are “highly processed” despite very healthy. "processed" and "healthy" are oxymorons. I think it's better to tell people to restrict themselves to "whole foods".

I believe you’re missing their point. As well as demonstrating a complete lack of information about infant formula.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

Not as bad as expected. Healthy fats and whole grains with lots of fruit and vegetables. Emphasis on minimal processing.

It might even be better messaging than the healthy plate because it shows the foods visually which is what some people need to see.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by sneilan1 »

I'm so confused. Why would the United States care about people's health? It feels out of character for this administration given the times.
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