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Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

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post #42

I just uninstalled a game from my mobile phone this morning that had heavy ad usage. It was interesting to note the different ad display strategies. From least to most annoying: - display a static ad, have the "x" to close appear soon (3-10 seconds) - display an animated ad, have the "x" to close appear soon (3-10 seconds) - display a static ad, have the "x" to close appear after 20-30 seconds - display an animated a…

I uninstall all games with any ad usage.

The latest was "I Love Hue". It let me play 10 levels (nice) and then put ads in. If they had just asked for $1 before showing the first ad I might have paid but as soon as I saw the ads I just uninstalled.

Note: IMO "I Love Hue" is a $1 game. I'm happy to pay $$ for bigger games and often do though on Switch/Steam, less on mobile.

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

#322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shortly before I started paying for YouTube, I remember seeing one of those ultra-long ads. The ad seemed interesting, so at first I didn't want to skip it. As soon as I saw that it was a looooong ad I got into the habit of checking the length of an ad before I even considered if it's worth watching. Now I just pay for Youtube. I'm a lot happier that way.

Time is money. Ten minutes of daily YouTube ads adds up to 5 hours a month. Premium costs $14, roughly an hour's work at minimum wage. Trade one hour of labor for four hours of free time. That's 48 hours back each year for $168. It's a no brainer. Even if your wage is half of 14 dollars, you would still gain 24 hours back and it would still be worth it.

or install ublock origin and keep your money and the time!

while depriving google of revenue AND costing them money

win, win, win and WIN

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

#324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I hate ads, I don’t know that it’s so simple. There are products that do solve legitimate problems people have. Maybe there is less of that now, but in this past this was very true, and advertising helped make people aware that solutions to their problems have been developed. The first washing machine, for example. The problem comes when the advertisement manufacturers problems that didn’t previously exist…

If you waited for an ad to solve your "legitimate problem" you didn't have a problem to begin with imho

You might not know it is a problem and that it is solvable.

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

#325

I am shaken to my core (sorry, wife hates that phrase, so I have to use it everywhere) at how many posters here see ads. I'm of the opinion that if you're seeing ads on your hardware, which you paid for, your computer is broken. That advertisements are always evil, always wrong, and never morally just. And everything possible should be done to avoid, remove, or deface them. To that end: Andriod: - Root your damn phon…

  > iOS:

  - uBlock Origin now exists
    - Settings > Apps > Safari > (General) Extensions > uBlock Origin Lite
  https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ublock-origin-lite/id6745342698

  - Alternatively, use Orion Browser (Kagi)
    - Pros: a bit better ad blocking
    - Cons: more buggy
  https://apps.apple.com/us/app/orion-browser-by-kagi/id1484498200
I'd also recommend installing Firefox, logging in, but use Safari. That way you can export a tab to Firefox where you can still get the send tabs feature.

  >  Firefox as a whole:

  Also check out BetterFox
  - https://github.com/yokoffing/BetterFox
Side Note:

Phones are also general computer systems. Fuck this bullshit of pretending they're anything less. If you don't have control over your computer, your computer is broken. You don't have to be forced to adhere to Big Tech's short comings.

  > Andriod:

  - Install Termux (from F-droid, not Playstore)
    - It is trivial to write scripts to handle a lot of things that work through third parties. Less than 100 lines. I find these scripts *better* than many app alternatives and infinitely more trustworthy. We're on HN, everyone here should be able to write basic scripts. Hell, the AI could probably do these things easily (make it use functions! Bash needs functions!)
      Some ideas to show scope of what you can do:
      - Automated backups: just a fucking rsync to your folders (god fuck Apple, why can't I rsync my pictures on an iPhone!!!!)
        - I have my script check for WiFi. If on my SSID I rsync locally. If not, I go through Tailscale. If not on WiFi I don't backup, minimizing my data usage. I'm lazy and just set the cron job to run once a day, making each backup usually pretty small but can cause larger backups when traveling 
        - rsync can also remove files from your phone if you're concerned about storage.
        - You can backup to multiple locations! Even if you use google drive or whatever you should still rsync to your local machine. Remember, Google photos doesn't save full resolution. 

      - Loss Prevention: Your phone hasn't accessed a set of predetermined WIFI SSIDs in a set time period? Send a file to a known computer (Tailscale), email yourself, or something else with the device's coordinates. Add an easing function, check battery health, and whatever info you want. Hell, even take pictures. You can also make it play music or whatever to help find it. 

      - Replicate Apple's Check In:
        - You can read GPS coordinates, SSIDs, and send SMS messages. This is a lot easier than you think

      - Enforce the actual WIFI SSID you want!
        - Phone sometimes jumping on the wrong SSID? Have no fear a few lines of code can tell it to fuck off! 
          - I had this issue living in graduate housing where a university AP was near my unit. My phone would randomly decide to join the uni's connection despite sitting a few feet from my router and having better signal strength... 
  
  - Install Tailscale and get access to your local machines remotely
    - Setup a raspberry pi at home and make an exit node that uses pihole (suggestion: check out systemd-nspawn)

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

#326
post #13

I've often wondered whether the world would be better without ads. The incentive to create services (especially in social media) that strive to addict their users feels toxic to society. Often, it feels uncertain whether these services are providing actual value, and I suspect that whether a user would pay for a service in lieu of watching ads is incidentally a good barometer for whether real value is present. Don't…

It's not ads IMO, it's just reality. Remove the ads, people (instagram/tiktok/youtube) still get influence by "strive to addict their users"

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

#327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I hate ads, I don’t know that it’s so simple. There are products that do solve legitimate problems people have. Maybe there is less of that now, but in this past this was very true, and advertising helped make people aware that solutions to their problems have been developed. The first washing machine, for example. The problem comes when the advertisement manufacturers problems that didn’t previously exist…

If you waited for an ad to solve your "legitimate problem" you didn't have a problem to begin with imho

No, there are very few markets in which all of the buyers have perfect information.

It is extremely common in the science/technology sector that buyers aren't looking for a solution to a problem they have because they are under the impression that a solution doesn't exist.

The archetypal business-school case study for this is the story of Viagra. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/03/27/viagra...

But it applies to most new technology in a less dramatic sense.

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

#328

I hate ads with all my heart. And I go out of my way to religiously block them. I employ DNS blocking (through my own adguard home server) on my whole network (I use this DNS server connected to unbound to act as recursive DNS on all devices even when I am outside home). I use ublock origin on Firefox browser (one of the forks that guts Firefox ads and privacy settings by default) and on my iPhone I use wipr + uBlock…

Companies are not obligated to provide you with services for free. You are free to solely use non ad supported services.

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

#329
post #86

I'm just wondering why governments think it's a good idea to regulate ads. IMO that is something the market (e.g. the users) should take care of.

The market inevitably trends toward the lowest common denominator. We deserve better.

You can make better. But there's a reason non-ad-supported businesses barely ever work out.

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

#330
When I was traveling in Asia I was sometimes on VPN and sometimes not. I noticed that when I was not on VPN I got a lot more unskippable youtube ads than when I was, even though I was using the same browser and adblockers.

Apparently Google knows how to circumvent adblockers, and they're testing these tools in certain markets.

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