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iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Post by llmslave2 »

nutjob2 wrote: post #319
llmslave2 wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Freedom of speech also means the ability to silence speech you don't like. That's akin to saying the right to physical autonomy means the ability to dominate others. A completely meaningless and self-defeating argument.

It's akin to physical autonomy meaning you can't trespass. > A completely meaningless and self-defeating argument. Your example is literally true: in Texas you have the right to kill someone entering your home without permission. So far from being "meaningless and self-defeating", it's reality. Just like you can't walk on my property without my permission, you can't speak on my property without my permission, includi…

The right to kick someone off of your property is not the right to silence someone's speech, that is utterly ridiculous framing.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Post by dwaite »

heavyset_go wrote: post #32

Currently, on the AirPods side and not iOS side like the article covers, Apple breaks Bluetooth feature parity with other devices by not sticking to the Bluetooth spec with AirPods themselves. For example, you need to root and patch your Bluetooth stack on your phone if you want to use all of your AirPods features on Android, and not because Android is doing something wrong, it's because the Android Bluetooth stack a…

> For example, you need to root and patch your Bluetooth stack on your phone if you want to use all of your AirPods features on Android, and not because Android is doing something wrong, it's because the Android Bluetooth stack actually sticks to the spec and AirPods don't.

It’s a mix of bad Bluetooth implementations still on the Android side, and Apple extensions to cram audio features into the BLE envelope.

> And even when you do that, you can't do native AAC streaming like you can with iOS/macOS. Even if you're listening to AAC encoded audio, it'll be transcoded again as 256kbps AAC over Bluetooth.

How would this be Apple’s fault if the OS audio stack can’t do direct AAC streaming? Or are you saying the headphones themselves decode, re-encode and then re-decode the AAC?

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Post by dwaite »

kalleboo wrote: post #90
clayhacks wrote: post #2

So this tap to pair won’t work in the US? The side loading stuff I can understand to restrict to the EU, but this just seems like a nice feature for everyone

They even restrict "letting you choose the default maps app" to jurisdictions that legally require it (EU and Japan), there is literally no justification for that other than "we want to increase KPIs for our shitty Apple Maps app by making people accidentally open it", it's an extremely basic toggle that pretty much any user of Google Maps would prefer.

The problem is you can’t regulate interoperability where it doesn’t exist.

What does it mean to open the “default map app”? Maps apps typically act a native rendering for a web site, and have their own web-parameter based API for locations, navigation, and points of interest, as well as customizing informational layers.

So if I set say Bing maps to be the default map app, does that mean:

1. The OS hijacks attempts to link to sites such as Google Maps (https://maps.google.com) and Apple Maps (https://maps.apple.com) and send them to Bing Maps instead?

2. Bing Maps reverse engineers as much as possible of the various other mapping products and tries to support them with roughly equivalent features or error messages?

What the default maps app setting Apple created does is create an entirely new URI scheme of geo-navigation and an entitlement for apps which wish to support it to be the default map app. This appears to be roughly limited to a subset of parameters common between Apple and Google Maps.

So this setting in the EU and Japan.. mostly does nothing currently. Every developer needs to change their native apps and web pages to call out to this new custom scheme that only works on Apple platforms. Each of these mapping apps needs to support this scheme. That hasn’t happened yet.

The EU (and in this case Japan) gets early access and the potential exposure of multiple breaking revisions.

It is also certainly possible that a good number of web/app developers decide they don’t _want_ to support multiple mapping apps, since they’ve only verified one or two of them actually provide proper navigation/visualization/POI, and that the whole concept is flawed.

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Post by tt24 »

stavros wrote: post #309
tt24 wrote: post #308

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> How many vendors can you buy software for your Tesla from? Not many. That's fine. Just buy another car. There's plenty of competition in the space.

Not "not many". One. That's what a monopoly is.

You’re welcome to purchase a car from another vendor. This framing is dishonest

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Post by stavros »

tt24 wrote: post #324
stavros wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not "not many". One. That's what a monopoly is.

You’re welcome to purchase a car from another vendor. This framing is dishonest

You're not understanding my point. I'm not saying Apple has a monopoly on phones, I'm saying they have a monopoly on iPhone apps. It's the App Store that's a monopoly, and the EU agrees with me, hence the DMA.

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Post by monerozcash »

ksec wrote: post #239
monerozcash wrote: post #103

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Of course you could actually try to link to some context on this. Apple certainly didn't create USB-C, but was one of the biggest contributors.

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2015/03/14/apple-usbc And many post before that. But was too late, by that time the words were spread on internet like wildfire. Especially in Apple focused publishing sites. https://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/03/17/cybart-apple-pr... I cant find the exact one, but he at the time was suggesting AirPods was sold at cost. Along with plenty of American so called "analyst". He might…

I was specifically trying to address the claims made by the previous commenter I was replying to. I don't think Gruber's takes are generally worth paying attention to, and I don't think Gruber making similar-but-false claims should in any way discredit what I wrote.

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

deaux wrote: post #315
disgruntledphd2 wrote: post #281

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> Can you give me a set of non-EU countries with better cross-country capital markets, that are as such now instead the place to build this? Especially for a set size bigger than 3? Serious question, as I've never heard of one and am fairly sure it doesn't exist, though I'd love to be proven wrong. This does not exist, however the EU single market is also pretty unique in terms of how many countries are involved. If…

If it does not exist, it is not a disadvantage compared to anywhere else. In a sense it's an advantage, as despite the barriers, the capital markets of two EU countries (especially if they use the Euro) are still a lot more integrated than if you'd pick two random non-EU countries. The disadvantages of being from a small EU country would apply the exact same way but even worse if you were from a small non-EU country.…

> Because they don't have an advantage in those areas, showing that the EU indeed doesn't actually cause any disadvantages in them.

Lots to unpack here.

So the issue is size of capital markets (for startup and IPO purposes). 27 small markets are much, much less liquid than one large one (like China or the US). Therefore, it's easier for European founders to raise US capital, which often leads to them incorporating or floating in the US. Like, Flutter (which is an Irish company) is on the US markets for exactly this reason, as are a bunch of other large Irish companies.

It would be better for the EU if these companies incorporated in the EU, for which one large capital market would work better.

And it's not that EU companies are disadvantaged vs Singaporean companies, it's that they are disadvantaged relative to US companies.

> are still a lot more integrated than if you'd pick two random non-EU countries.

I guess my point is that they're not integrated enough.

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Post by morshu9001 »

deaux wrote: post #316
morshu9001 wrote: post #291

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Right, I'm not talking about capital markets, just regulations. Overall tech doesn't thrive in the EU. Their attitude probably predates EU founding too. And I'm not just saying that because of this relatively small AirPods situation (where I actually agree with EU).

Tech "not thriving" in the EU - by what standards, what does this mean? - has zero to do with EU regulations, or we'd see tech thrive much more in Japan, Korea, Kenya, Serbia, Mexico, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore, all those non-EU countries with supposedly less regulations and as such more thriving tech. Before you point to the chip companies that some of those countries have, those already existed 30+ years ago and a…

Tech is thriving in some of those east Asian countries. For the size of the EU population or GDP, take your pick, their tech sector isn't so hot.

Of course I didn't say that being unregulated automatically makes the tech sector thrive. Kenya has plenty of other problems to solve first.

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Post by tclancy »

hopelite wrote: post #284
tclancy wrote: post #73

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> Frankly, I wish Apple had the non-binary balls to simply just cut off all iPhones in Europe rather than bend to EU despot dictates Perhaps you should come back when you’re less emotional. Suggesting incredibly poor value for shareholder decision while also being hateful (non-binary balls, indeed) is showing the whole ass. Never go whole ass.

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Clearly the response of someone with no emotion whatsoever wrapped up in this.
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