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Re: GPT-5.2

#321

> “a new knowledge cutoff of August 2025” This (and the price increase) points to a new pretrained model under-the-hood. GPT-5.1, in contrast, was allegedly using the same pretraining as GPT-4o.

A new pretrain would definitely get more than a .1 version bump & would get a whole lot more hype I'd think. They're expensive to do!

Not if they didn't feel that it delivered customer value no? It's about under promising and over delivering, in every instance

Re: GPT-5.2

#322

> “a new knowledge cutoff of August 2025” This (and the price increase) points to a new pretrained model under-the-hood. GPT-5.1, in contrast, was allegedly using the same pretraining as GPT-4o.

A new pretrain would definitely get more than a .1 version bump & would get a whole lot more hype I'd think. They're expensive to do!

Not if it underwhelms

Re: GPT-5.2

#323

> “a new knowledge cutoff of August 2025” This (and the price increase) points to a new pretrained model under-the-hood. GPT-5.1, in contrast, was allegedly using the same pretraining as GPT-4o.

A new pretrain would definitely get more than a .1 version bump & would get a whole lot more hype I'd think. They're expensive to do!

Maybe they felt the increase in capability is not worth of a bigger version bump. Additionally pre-training isn't as important as it used to be. Most of the advances we see now probably come from the RL stage.

Re: GPT-5.2

#325
post #31

For me the last remaining killer feature of ChatGPT is the quality of the voice chat. Do any of the competitors have something like that?

I absolutely loathe ChatGPT's voice chat. It spends far too much time being conversational and its eagerness to please becomes fatiguing after the first back-and-forth.

Re: GPT-5.2

#326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arc-AGI is just an iq test. I don’t see the problem with training it to be good at iq tests because that’s a skill that translates well.

Exactly. In principle, at least, the only way to overfit to Arc-AGI is to actually be that smart. Edit: if you disagree, try actually TAKING the Arc-AGI 2 test, then post.

It's very much a vision test. The reason all the models don't pass it easily is only because of the vision component. It doesn't have much to do with reasoning at all

Re: GPT-5.2

#328
post #31

For me the last remaining killer feature of ChatGPT is the quality of the voice chat. Do any of the competitors have something like that?

Along with the hordes of other options people are responding with, I'm a big fan of Perplexity's voice chat. It does back-and-forth well in a way that I missed whenever I tried anything besides ChatGPT.

Re: GPT-5.2

#329

Is it me, or did it still get at least three placements of components (RAM and PCIe slots, plus it's DisplayPort and not HDMI) in the motherboard image[0] completely wrong? Why would they use that as a promotional image? 0: https://images.ctfassets.net/kftzwdyauwt9/6lyujQxhZDnOMruN3f...

FTA: Both models make clear mistakes, but GPT‑5.2 shows better comprehension of the image. You can find it right next to the image you are talking about.

'Commented after article was already edited in response to HN feedback' award

Re: GPT-5.2

#330

> Unlike the previous GPT-5.1 model, GPT-5.2 has new features for managing what the model "knows" and "remembers to improve accuracy. Dumb nit, but why not put your own press release through your model to prevent basic things like missing quote marks? Reminds me of that time an OAI released wildly inaccurate copy/pasted bar charts.

I always remember this old image https://i.imgur.com/MCsOM8e.jpeg
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