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Re: John Giannandrea to retire from Apple

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I don’t remember Windows 8 being particularly transparent. Windows 8 is remembered for the start screen with the modern tiles.

Right, I was thinking of Windows Vista before it

Now that you mention it, liquid glass does resemble windows vista.

Re: John Giannandrea to retire from Apple

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The iphone is so useful they can probably ride it for a couple more decades at least. I would still buy it. From a technology or engineering perspective, I have no idea how to work with Apple.

macOS, iPadOS and watchOS are all still the best at what they do.

Me installing an app to transfer a movie to my girlfriend's iPhone, but we don't have a cable for it. You need a third party app called LocalSend, but that can't work, because the only WiFi we have access to is a complicated university gateway that won't support LocalSend, so I open up a mobile hotspot, but somehow iPhones can't connect to that. So we give up.

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Siri is almost comically bad. Just one recent anecdote: When discussing a Jeopardy answer with my wife, I say "Hey Siri, who was Pol Pot". Siri said, "OK, calling Scott". So it woke up my friend at 1am.. And if I hear another "I found this on the web", I'm going to scream. Siri is so bad it makes me want to go back to a pixel.

I know there is an infinite list of reasons Siri sucks but one that really irks me is now Siri can be integrated with ChatGPT. You can also change settings so it will automatically query ChatGPT without asking…

Yet Siri will still tell you about a web results on your phone… but sometimes same question asked? Will check ChatGPT and give you an actual answer (15% hit rate?).

ARG!!!!

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No. actually no company on earth has solved the voice assistant thing yet

I guess it depends on what you mean by voice assistant. But Android has been 100% accurate for simple commands for over a decade for me. Things like: - "weather." tells me forecast of where I am. - "alarm at 8am" and "alarm in 30 minutes" works as expected. - calendar commands also work My favourite is "go home" which opens Google map with a route to home. These things just work. I don't recall last time I had to rep…

I wonder if we are getting different versions based on geolocation (I'm in Europe) because my experience is the absolute opposite of this. I actually had the thought "maybe I should switch to apple to stop having to deal with this" just this week (although reading this thread siri is as bad).

My experience is only through android auto and it honestly makes me furious how bad it is. There is absolutely no other tech product in my life that gets even close to how bad voice commands are handled in Android.

In my experience, literally everything sucks:

- single language voice recognition (me speaking in English with an accent)

- multi language voice recognition (english commands that include localised names from the country I'm in)

- action in context (understand what I'm actually asking it to do)

- supported actions (what it can actually do)

Some practical examples from just this week:

- I had to repeat 3 times that "no I don't want to reply" because I made the mistake of getting google to read a whatsapp message while driving, and it got stuck into the "would you like to reply" (it almost always gets stuck - it's my goto example to show people how bad it is)

- I asked it to queue a very specific playlist on Spotify, and it just couldn't get it right (no matter how specific my command was, I couldn't get it to play a playlist from MY. account instead of playing an unrelated public playlist)

- I asked to add a song to a playlist, and it said it couldn't do that (at least it understood what I was asking? maybe)

And in general I gave up trying to use google maps through voice commands, because it's just not capable of understanding an English command if it contains a street/location name pronounced in the local language/accent.

Re: John Giannandrea to retire from Apple

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My theory that Apple are becoming Yahoo! keeps being proven true honestly. They have some massive advantages to build really incredible AI tools, infrastructure and hardware but they refuse to take it because they are fascinated by pointlessly making their UI look transparent.

Indeed, the UI designers are 100% transferable to AI R&D.

I really want to be quite harsh, but instead I’ll try to constructively explain it; if you spend time, resources, focus and money on making your product worse like Apple are and actively not make your AI assistant better for 15 years then there’s a problem. You as Apple can obviously hire some AI R&D and software engineers to improve your options. My comments about transparent UI are the tip of a much larger iceberg.

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odd, why not Craig? he's by far the popular pick + probably actually right leader for apple's ai phase

Craig seems the type that would prefer to be closer to the tools than to be a CEO and manage all the other stuff that comes with it... The various interviews I've watched of his (and some of the leaked news) shows he's still quite deep in the tools.

He's pure creativitiy, that guy! I think it'll drain his energy if he needed to do more admin stuff.

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CLI + small LLM (I am aware of the oxymoron) trained on docs could be fun

If you like deleting all your files, sure. LLMs, especially small ones, have far too high a propensity for consequential mistakes to risk them on something like that.

I was thinking more in context of interactive help that will just find and display relevant manual info (to get around the problem of "it remembered wrong") rather than vibe coder favourite of "just run what you hallucinated immediately"
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