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Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by MadnessASAP »

embedding-shape wrote: post #237
MadnessASAP wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The eternal September has finally ended. We've now entered the AI winter. It promises to be long, dark, and full of annoyances.

"Winter" in AI (or cryptocurrency, or any at all) ecosystems denote a period of low activity, and a focus on fundamentals instead of driven by hype. What we're seeing now is something more like the peak of summer. If it ends up being a bubble, and it burtst, some months after that will be "AI Winter" as investors won't want to continue chucking money at problems anymore, and it'll go back to "in the background resear…

It was a continuation of the nuclear analogy, a nuclear winter following a large scale nuclear exchange.

Also that winter comes after September (fall)

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by bloak »

greenicon wrote: post #152
kuschku wrote: post #102

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That depends on the language — whereas German puts spaces around —, English afaik usually doesn’t. Similarly, French puts spaces before and after ? ! while English and German only put spaces afterwards. [EDIT: I originally wrote that French treats . , ! ? specially. In reality, french only treats ? and ! specially.]

In German you use en-dashes with spaces, whereas in English it’s em-dashes without spaces. Some people dislike em-dashes in English though and use en-dashes with spaces as well.

In British English en-dashes with spaces is more common than em-dashes without spaces, I think, but I don't have any data for that, just a general impression.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by donkyrf »

Alex2037 wrote: post #249
clucas wrote: post #202

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I think "no wars of conquest" is a bright line that was crossed by Russia, that hasn't been crossed by other nations in a long time. And I think it's important for the whole world to take a stand on that, not just the nation that was invaded. It's not a "random stand."

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"enthusiastic support"

https://yougov.co.uk/international/articles/52279-net-favour...

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/10/03/how-american...

etc etc....

I'm not sure what collective West you're referring to; but apparently it excludes every major Western European nation, America, and Canada.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by codyb »

shevy-java wrote: post #119

> This is a search tool that will only return content created before ChatGPT's first public release on November 30, 2022. The problem is that Google's search engine - but, oddly enough, ALL search engines - got worse before that already. I noticed that search engines got worse several years before 2022. So, AI further decreased the quality, but the quality had a downwards trend already, as it was. There are some atte…

I've been using DuckDuckGo for the last... decade or so. And it still seems to return fairly relevant documentation towards the top.

To be fair, that's most of what I use search for these days is "> >" then navigate to the documentation, double check the versions align with what I'm writing software in, read... move on.

Sometimes I also search for "movie showtimes nyc" or for a specific venue or something.

So maybe my use cases are too specific to screw up, who knows. If not, maybe DDG is worth a try.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

justinclift wrote: post #124
shevy-java wrote: post #119

> This is a search tool that will only return content created before ChatGPT's first public release on November 30, 2022. The problem is that Google's search engine - but, oddly enough, ALL search engines - got worse before that already. I noticed that search engines got worse several years before 2022. So, AI further decreased the quality, but the quality had a downwards trend already, as it was. There are some atte…

Are you aware of Kagi (kagi.com)? With them, at least the AI stuff can be turned off. Membership is presently about 61k, and seems to be growing about 2k per month: https://kagi.com/stats

The AI stuff in google search can be turned off.

  https://www.google.com/search?udm=14&q=kagi
My default browser search tool is set to google with ?udm=14 automatically appended.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by ssl-3 »

kortilla wrote: post #196
eirini1 wrote: post #149

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I don't agree with this logic. It implies that people who use Google, Bing and a million other products made by US-based companies are supportive of the huge amount of attrocities commited or aided by the United States. Or other countries. It feels very odd to single out Russia's invasion of Ukraine but to minimize the Israeli genocide of palestinians in Gaza, the multiple unjust wars waged by the United States all o…

Google doesn’t censor those atrocities for the US government. That’s the key difference.

It's often fairly easy to find US government-centric news and criticism with Google.

But as one counterexample: The end of the US penny was formed and announced not with public legislative discourse, nor even with an executive order, but with a brief social media post by the president.

And I don't mean that it's atrocious or anything, but I wanted to see that social media post myself. Not a report about it, or someone's interpretation of it, but -- you know -- the actual utterance from the horse's mouth.

Which should be a simple matter. After all, it's the WWW.

And I've been Googling for as long as there has been a Google to Google with. I'd like to think that I am proficient at getting results from it.

But it was like pulling teeth to get Google to eventually, kicking and screaming, produce a link to the original message on Truth Social.

If that kind of active reluctance isn't censorship on Google's part, then what might it be described as instead?

And if they're seeking to keep me away from the root of this very minor issue, then what else might they also be working to keep me from?

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by Seattle3503 »

amelius wrote: post #140
justinclift wrote: post #124

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Are you aware of Kagi (kagi.com)? With them, at least the AI stuff can be turned off. Membership is presently about 61k, and seems to be growing about 2k per month: https://kagi.com/stats

Be aware of: https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchKagi/comments/1gvlqhm/disappo...

I'm surprised this is possible given the sanctions on Russia.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by duxup »

richwater wrote: post #317
alessioalex wrote: post #273

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He probably doesn’t want to support genocide.

Hope he doesn't pay his taxes then considering where US aid ends up

I pay my taxes, that's not optional. Paying search engine is.
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