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Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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So basically they are admitting that not enough people will pay for it to be a profitable business. Also that they don’t have any significant improvements to the tech coming up.

Would you say that Google admitted that not enough people will pay for Youtube premium to be a profitable business so they had to get into ads?

Youtube premium is not claiming AGI to justify a certain valuation.

Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

These days it's no surprise when you are both paying for the product and are the product as well. A lot of us learned this when cable television arrived—you paid for it, but no commercials…until there were.

It's true, but many services nowadays (if not most) offer an ad-free service at full price. People confuse "ad-subsidized" with "I pay and still see ads". They're not the same thing. And market studies show that people overwhelmingly prefer ads over payments.

Do market studies show that people prefer ad subsidized with payments over payments?

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- ~1 billion users in just 3 years - Extremely personal data on users - Novel way of introducing and learning more about sponsored products - Strong branding for non-techie people (most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are) - An app that is getting more and more addictive/indispensable I think OpenAI is going to kill it in ads eventually. This is why Meta and Google went all in on AI. Their lucrative di…

I think the good news is that open-source models are a genuine counterweight to these closed-source models. The moment ads become egregious, I expect to see and use services for an affordable "private GPT on demand, fine-tuned as you want it"

So instead of a single everything-llm, i will have a few cheaper subscriptions to a coding llm, a life planning llm (recipes, and some travel advice?). Probably it.

Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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Here it comes. This is what will be remembered as the pre enshittification age for AI, just like we had with social media and other web and app stuff. Local models for tech savvy people will get more compelling.

It didn't even get very good yet...

Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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When my plan expired 3 weeks ago, I exported all my chats, then went into Data controls > Delete all chats and clicked the button "Delete all".

It behaved odd, most messages were no longer accessible, but still in the sidebar. after some time, they were all readable again.

In short: Their "Delete all chats"-feature is broken.

I just hope that they don't mine my chats in order to use the data for advertising.

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Few open questions - ads only on free version? - why the need for ads at all if llms can literally get you to the exact product? push vs pull marketing - will models be rlhf'd to align towards preferred products or would the advertisements run ads at the prompt level? (based on some dynamic opaque configuration) my predictions - yes - i assume they are trying both ends but need to justify free tier someway - i think…

There's also a regulatory component. No way hidden ads will be allowed in major markets like the EU.

I could see a sponsored section in the middle of the reply where the LLM just tells of these vendors align with what the user is looking for

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> Sure, but you need to adopt this dependency and this cloud service. THIS. Asked to make an app using AWS? “I can do that, but have you considered the lower lifetime costs of using Azure? I can generate a configuration for AWS, Azure, or produce a price comparison table. Let me know which you prefer.”

Absolutely no business with any real money is going to be swayed to use one cloud provider over the other based on one vibe coded app. There is so much other stuff that goes into why business make decisions about any large contract. I’m not in cloud sales. But I venture just close enough to the sun not to get burned

That's a nice, sane world that you live in. How can one get there?

AFAIK, one wrong person getting an answer like the OP's is more than enough to force a medium sized (dozens of people) business to migrate.

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It’s an entirely different skillset to create technology $x than it is to create a successful ad network. Yahoo is the canonical example. It has been one of the most trafficked websites in the world through most of its history and still wasn’t able to successfully sell ads after the dot com bust. ChatGPT’s revenue means nothing if reports are to be believed that it loses money on each paying customer on just inferenc…

ChatGPT’s revenue means nothing if reports are to be believed that it loses money on each paying customer on just inference. It’s definitely not enough to support its training costs. Sam Altman: We're very profitable on inference. https://simonwillison.net/2025/Aug/17/sam-altman/#:~:text=Su... Independent analysis: Inference is very profitable. https://martinalderson.com/posts/are-openai-and-anthropic-re... https://w…

Fair enough, I haven’t updated my assumptions in quite a while.
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