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Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by PinkSheep »

simion314 wrote: post #247
PinkSheep wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need a new edition of the playbook. They have been renamed 30 years ago. The gov shutdown is hitting real hard, isn't it? /s

I am not from USA, I mentioned facts you can check, so you can judge the guys action or you be "navie" and trust his words. So for actuaal people that want the truth the badstatd was caiming in the day of Romanian election that France asked him to push pro EU propaganda in Telegram and he the big hero refussed. For some reason he only had the ability to tell the truth about his heroism in the day of the elections and…

I trust no one, not *fact-checked facts*, nor you, nor Durov, nor any government official. There exist enough inconsistencies about Durov's/Telegram's relationship with the government of Russia that you wouldn't see surface in the anglophonic sphere. The "French situation" added yet more to the pile of doubts.

If you wanted my reply to the rest of what you wrote, it is this: if you choose to believe a single social network/app is influential enough to manipulate an election, be logically consequential to recognize that they all are and do. Whether as a first party (the company itself is involved) or as an intermediary (via third-party bots).

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by immibis »

immibis wrote: post #98
hobs wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about "The President was close friends with a known child sexual predator and his entire government spends a significant amount of time covering up their connections because it seems fairly obvious the president fucked teenagers and then fomented a coup and put literal criminals and felons in his cabinet so no one would hold him accountable while destroying the nation's economy and starting wars nobody can even u…

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Interesting how this comment dropped from +5 to -1 when the American time zone came online

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by petalmind »

flufluflufluffy wrote: post #270
valicord wrote: post #209

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If you can sue shark fins, why not a website? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Approximately...

Amazing, here is a list of other similarly hilariously-titled “in rem jurisdiction” cases: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_rem_jurisdiction#Examples Some good ones: - United States v. One Solid Gold Object in Form of a Rooster - United States v. 11 1/4 Dozen Packages of Articles Labeled in Part Mrs. Moffat's Shoo-Fly Powders for Drunkenness - South Dakota v. Fifteen Impounded Cats

Fantastic. Each case is basically an SCP object.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by rolph »

iamnothere wrote: post #79
j-bos wrote: post #56

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I've been seeing something similar on some youtube videos, endless unflagged comments advocating hatred and violence, completely unrelated to the video topic or channel.

Interesting, this may suppress reach of the video through something in the YT algorithm.

could be, but i think its similar to a bathroom wall, or physical bulleten board. a publicly facing space with no attribution, that can be linked to, and evade URL based filters of known hate speech projectors.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by mzajc »

> They [archive.today] replied within a few hours. The response was straightforward: the illegal content would be removed (and we verified that it was), and they had never received any previous notifications about those URLs.

I think it's very telling that the WAAD people don't mention that last bit in their response[0] - unless archive.today rotates their DKIM records, the messages would be verifiably signed. This of course means you can't just make stuff up, which is likely what they did.

[0] https://archive.ph/MCt4g

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by NoahZuniga »

ndiddy wrote: post #206
snthd wrote: post #114

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Archive.is have previously blocked cloudflare DNS because it was anonymizing requests. It could be either. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19828317 >The archive.is owner has explained that he returns bad results to us because we don’t pass along the EDNS subnet information. This information leaks information about a requester’s IP and, in turn, sacrifices the privacy of users.

Someone asked the archive.is owner why he does this in the past. It's because of similar situations to this one where someone who wants to get archive.is taken down uploads illegal content, requests archive.is to save it, and immediately reports archive.is to their country's legal authorities. His solution to this is using the EDNS information to serve requests from the closest IP abroad, so any takedown procedure re…

> Even if you're worried about other people sniffing network traffic, the hostname you're visiting still gets revealed in plaintext during the SNI handshake

Many sites now support Encypted Client Hello. This makes it possible to send the hostname after the connection has been encrypted. This is enabled by default on cloudflare hosted domains (when cloudflare also manages DNS).

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by wartywhoa23 »

unwise-exe wrote: post #319
wartywhoa23 wrote: post #163

The Ministry of Truth simply doesn't want unaccounted and uncontrolled snapshots of history. Too much hassle steering the narrative regarding any surfacing truth-now-meant-to-be-lies and vice versa into fake news territory, discrediting by association, cranking up troll farms.. Much easier to make this inconvenience disappear with the due cooperation from the controlled outlets of information. Then they will come aft…

Who cares about local storage? You could have just made up whatever you're claiming to have saved.

True, it's next to useless as a proof of anything for wide audience...

But what does care about local storage in this brave new gaslit world is my own sanity, for one.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by bdangubic »

immibis wrote: post #98
hobs wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about "The President was close friends with a known child sexual predator and his entire government spends a significant amount of time covering up their connections because it seems fairly obvious the president fucked teenagers and then fomented a coup and put literal criminals and felons in his cabinet so no one would hold him accountable while destroying the nation's economy and starting wars nobody can even u…

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President Trump is a saint, it is just that MSM is out to get him, you got some bad information about him :)

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by NoahZuniga »

supriyo-biswas wrote: post #174
txrx0000 wrote: post #96

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They have plausible deniability, but the fact of the matter is: this also erases evidence of past crimes from public records. If bad things already happened then we should keep the evidence that they happened. The root problem of CSAM is child trafficking and abuse in physical space. But for whatever reason enforcement efforts seem to be more focused on censoring and deleting the images rather than on curbing the act…

A middle ground solution is for the admins to block the page with a message like "this page is unavailable due to reports of illegal content. if you work for a law enforcement agency and are considering using this as evidence, please contact us" for the preservation aspect. The meta conspiracy theory in all of this would be that this is an actual CSAM producer trying to take down evidence that could be used against t…

archive.today already takes down all reported CSAM? They explicitly don't want to archive it.

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Post by theoreticalmal »

wartywhoa23 wrote: post #163

The Ministry of Truth simply doesn't want unaccounted and uncontrolled snapshots of history. Too much hassle steering the narrative regarding any surfacing truth-now-meant-to-be-lies and vice versa into fake news territory, discrediting by association, cranking up troll farms.. Much easier to make this inconvenience disappear with the due cooperation from the controlled outlets of information. Then they will come aft…

Wasn’t there a post today saying GPU, memory, and storage price all skyrocketed due to AI pressures?
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