The AI bubble is hitting surface tension levels of size
ChatGPT Atlas
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#322As a sales engineer, when I'm not pushing random PRs for random demos or infra I'm building, I'm searching for people on LinkedIn in hopes of getting introductions. I tested a really basic LinkedIn search on myself. Atlas confidently failed successfully [0]; Kagi [1] and Google [2] nailed it. This is a perfect example as to why I don't think LLMs should replace search engines any time soon. Search engines help you fi…
I disagree.
With chatgpt I don't search, I ask. Chatgpt explains, I ask again, and refine and refine. Ask back for sources, etc.
When in doubt, I copy/paste a statement and I search for it with Google. And then Google LLM kicks in.
If it's consistent with chatgpt, I am still wanting to see the links/sources. If not, I notify chatgpt of the "wrong" information, and move on.
70-80% of search is dead. But of course searching for people or things like that, Google is still needed.
But search (the way we know it) was a paradigm that the old Internet created, because it was obviously easier to search for one or two keywords. Semantic search was always something they tried to implement but failed miserably.
Chatgpt is the new way to get information on the internet, like it or not. Even when you think that "it's only trained on recent data, etc", it's only partially an issue, because in many cases it's trained on good information coming from books. And that can be quite useful, much better than a crappy blog that is in the first Google page.
The new paradigm is to use chatgpt as an assistant / someone you can ask information to, in order to answer a question you have. The old paradigm, on the other hand, requires that you start from zero. You need to know already what to search for, in order to get to the fact you wanted to know in the first place. Now it's there, as long as you know a few words.
Re: ChatGPT Atlas
#323Im still weary of OpenAI being legally required to retain all of your data even if you delete it [0] . This means everything you expose to this tool will be permanently stored somewhere. Why isn’t this a bigger problem for people? Even privacy concerns aside… this would be the world’s most catastrophic data leak. [0]: https://openai.com/index/response-to-nyt-data-demands/
I think you mean wary, not weary.
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#324ChatGPT quickly became a replacement for google search in many usecases, now it is coming for Chrome's lunch.
What's going to be google's response here? They can't afford to lose dominance in these markets, surely they're coming after Ads next.
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#325So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approac…
We have to ask when is Chrome bringing this functionality? With Gemini
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#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
yeah the custom GPT announcement was literally a carbon copy of steve jobs announcing the app store down to the mannerisms and tics. You could tell they were doing it to give VC and private equity the pavlov bell "ring ring! this company is apple!" and remember the sora announcement just a couple weeks ago? oh you guys are tiktok and instagram reels now too? cool... everything that openAI does is laser focused on val…
> everything that openAI does is laser focused on valuation valuation valuation idk it seems like a company filled with product and engineering where people are thinking of cool product ideas and shipping them. They don’t have to all hit, but it doesn’t seem bad to try them.
the company charter is not product and engineering it's "we are going to invent THE machine, the singular fulcrum upon which the infinite lever of history, the transcendent union of man and machine, the birth of a new GOD, rests."
I mean, ok, you're product and engineering, fine. You get $20/mo out of your million or so paying users and $200/mo from a small handful of freaks. what does that mean for the valuation? what does that do for sama's patek phillipe collection?? nothing good I assure you. the AI product and engineering landscape is insanely competitive, like actually competitive.
that's what I'm saying, the circle doesn't square here.
Re: ChatGPT Atlas
#327The thing I find the most funny about all of these demos is they outsource tasks that are pretty meaningful ... choosing where to hike, learning more about the world around you, instead, you'll be told what to do and live in blissful ignorance. The challenge of living life is also the joy, at least to me. Plus I would never trust a company like openai with all of my personal information. This is definitely just them…
To me AI is like having a young graduate come to live with you as an assistant. It's happy to do some research for you though not very inspired. But make lunch? No. Do some cleaning. Def no, but happy to chat about how you should do it. It all seems a bit pointless in the end.
Be patient. In few years, it will be a senior graduate :)
Re: ChatGPT Atlas
#328As a sales engineer, when I'm not pushing random PRs for random demos or infra I'm building, I'm searching for people on LinkedIn in hopes of getting introductions. I tested a really basic LinkedIn search on myself. Atlas confidently failed successfully [0]; Kagi [1] and Google [2] nailed it. This is a perfect example as to why I don't think LLMs should replace search engines any time soon. Search engines help you fi…
https://chatgpt.com/share/68f7da49-9e28-800c-b979-7ecb8b5485...
Chat seemed to find you just fine?
Re: ChatGPT Atlas
#329The thing I find the most funny about all of these demos is they outsource tasks that are pretty meaningful ... choosing where to hike, learning more about the world around you, instead, you'll be told what to do and live in blissful ignorance. The challenge of living life is also the joy, at least to me. Plus I would never trust a company like openai with all of my personal information. This is definitely just them…
To me AI is like having a young graduate come to live with you as an assistant. It's happy to do some research for you though not very inspired. But make lunch? No. Do some cleaning. Def no, but happy to chat about how you should do it. It all seems a bit pointless in the end.
I have a sad semi-fantasy, semi-fear, that AI will show us that everything we do online is rather pointless and force us back into the real world (this would cause me and most of this site to lose our jobs, hence the fear part)
Re: ChatGPT Atlas
#330Im still weary of OpenAI being legally required to retain all of your data even if you delete it [0] . This means everything you expose to this tool will be permanently stored somewhere. Why isn’t this a bigger problem for people? Even privacy concerns aside… this would be the world’s most catastrophic data leak. [0]: https://openai.com/index/response-to-nyt-data-demands/
I'm not so sure this is much worse than Chrome. Really in today's world if you're not browsing the web like multiple people are looking over your shoulder you're probably doing it wrong. And most of the steps people do to mitigate privacy violations (TOR, pihole, VPNs, etc.) probably make any signal you do put out more scrutinized. The one solution I do like is the iCloud private relay which I hope some reputable VPN vendors pick up soon.