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User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality
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Re: User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality
#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are plenty of criticisms of Web3, but this doesn't seems like a particularly valid one. What could the people who designed the relevant blockchains and smart contracts have done differently to prevent one marketplace from becoming dominant?
The users could reject exchanges and trade entirely on-chain, but that's expensive/complicated/risky. It is a serious concern for cryptocurrency that most users don't even get the touted benefits because of reliance on exchanges.
> The users could...
Any response that starts with "users could..." or "people could..." is pure wishful thinking and not worth wasting your time on. People don't work this way. En masse they will flow to the path of least resistance, and no amount of wishful thinking will ever change that.
Re: User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality
#323Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly the GP's point though, that's essentially sending an indicator to 50% of the population that they're not welcome on the platform. Do you really think a platform that performs actions like that will be successful? In practice, it obviously just creates echo chambers where fringe beliefs are painted as the common majority, because all dissenting views are silenced.
Why wouldn't it be successful? Truth Social seems to be doing pretty well, and no one on the left pretends that they should be allowed post there, the left is happy for those people to fuck off and leave them alone. Not everyone wants to debate politics all the time. Sometimes they just want to exist as trans people, share posts with their other queer friends and enjoy their day.
> Why wouldn't it be successful? Truth Social seems to be doing pretty well,
Is it? No one I know uses it at all, the only time I even remember it exists is when seeing screenshots of Trump's posts reposted on mainstream media and twitter from his account there. It's essentially the "trump-branded-twitter" and I never even hear of anyone else actually using it.
Compared to twitter, where most people I know still have an account in one way or another, including most notable mainstream figures.
> Not everyone wants to debate politics all the time. Sometimes they just want to exist as trans people, share posts with their other queer friends and enjoy their day.
Well they'd be poorly served by Bluesky, seeing as how someone merely existing on the platform without even breaking any rules has become a hot-button issue.
The whole platform is filled with politics, and people complaining about politics(/political figures). Perhaps politics they agree with are more tolerable than having to see opposing politics on their feed, but I find it hard to believe they truly are attracted to Bluesky for the total lack of politics.
Well, unless they go there for furry porn. There's so much of it for those that seek out such content, perhaps it really goes drown out any semblance of political discussion.
Re: User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality
#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
By remarkably offensive I mean they're clearly just trying to get away with saying the N-word. The full version too. You should try living your life better.
Saying that making jokes about inanimate probability models is comparable to saying the N word is anti-Black racism. Completely inappropriate and divorced from reality.
Which of these are acceptable/unacceptable to you?
- posting about saying it "with a hard R"
- posting TikToks of yourself yelling "dirty clanker" at delivery robots on the street
- posting TikToks of yourself saying it in a sketch where you're a waitress in the South in the 1950s
- replying to people with prosthetic robot arms calling them "half clankas"
Cause those are all real. It's the internet, you should assume anything bad you can imagine is real.
https://www.tiktok.com/@supervilliansprax/video/754524076599...
Re: User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality
#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
> moot Do you mean null? Ironically, 4chan actually still uses Cloudflare to this day, and did through that whole controversy too. I assure you there is way, way worse things posted to /pol/ than there ever was, or will be, to Kiwi Farms.
Right, sorry, Moon not moot. I enjoyed his interview with Nina Paley and Chris Cohn on life after cloudflare: https://heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-107-how-the-internet-...
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
I have been halfway following the Farm's status for the past couple years from null's telegram/forum posts, I didn't know he spoke about the situation at length anywhere.
Re: User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality
#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
I do wish there was a community that encouraged thoughtful positivity over negativity (granted I would not "ban" it) and some level of limited posting ... or something like that. It's a pipe dream I know, but on the surface social media could be really cool.
> I do wish there was a community that encouraged thoughtful positivity over negativity Yeah, it's called the real world. We have millions if not billions of years of experience in dealing with in-person differences, tentative contacts with members of neighbouring tribes and smoothing out conflicts. One will find the risk of getting smacked over the face for being an absolute idiot to be a very effective motivator to…
Spot on. I've long said that internet discourse will not improve until the implementation of a protocol to slap someone remotely.
Re: User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality
#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I do wish there was a community that encouraged thoughtful positivity over negativity Yeah, it's called the real world. We have millions if not billions of years of experience in dealing with in-person differences, tentative contacts with members of neighbouring tribes and smoothing out conflicts. One will find the risk of getting smacked over the face for being an absolute idiot to be a very effective motivator to…
Spot on. I've long said that internet discourse will not improve until the implementation of a protocol to slap someone remotely.
If that were implemented, it would be used before any reply is even read.
Doubtful that it would be an improvement.
Re: User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality
#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
It always comes back to the userbase. I don't know how many times technologists need to learn the lesson that normal people simply don't care about ideological technical principles like decentralization and often actually prefer the benefits of centralized systems like ease of use and typically stronger moderation. And when it comes to social media, businesses are naturally going to end up prioritizing the desires of…
> It always comes back to the userbase. I don't know how many times technologists need to learn the lesson that normal people simply don't care about ideological technical principles like decentralization and often actually prefer the benefits of centralized systems like ease of use and typically stronger moderation. The choice need not be limited to the familiar corporate hellscape vs decentralized usability nightma…
Oh hah, I guess my blog post came a month after this one. Near-identical subject matter.
Re: User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality
#329I just browse hashtags of art and pixelart, and I encounter a lot of furry penis porn
The internet is weird sometimes
Re: User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality
#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why wouldn't it be successful? Truth Social seems to be doing pretty well, and no one on the left pretends that they should be allowed post there, the left is happy for those people to fuck off and leave them alone. Not everyone wants to debate politics all the time. Sometimes they just want to exist as trans people, share posts with their other queer friends and enjoy their day.
> Why wouldn't it be successful? Truth Social seems to be doing pretty well, Is it? No one I know uses it at all, the only time I even remember it exists is when seeing screenshots of Trump's posts reposted on mainstream media and twitter from his account there. It's essentially the "trump-branded-twitter" and I never even hear of anyone else actually using it. Compared to twitter, where most people I know still have…
"Someone" in this case being Jesse Singal.