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Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Back in 2011, Apple removed apps that crowdsourced warnings about DUI checkpoints. It remains Apple's policy today. According to Grok, "In March 2011, four Democratic senators—Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), and Tom Udall (D-N.M.)—sent letters to Apple, Google, and Research in Motion (BlackBerry's parent company) urging the removal of such apps […]" So, we have precedent wher…

Why is Waze allowed since it let's you report speed traps?

Probably because it doesn't technically advertise it as such, just "hey something requiring police presence is around".

ICEBlock should rebrand as a generic "police activity" app and have a category "other" that everyone understands is ICE but isn't labelled as such.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What was the first?

No idea, but i know that apple regularly responds to government takedown requests. This was from last year: https://www.wsj.com/tech/apple-removes-whatsapp-threads-from... Apple even has a website about it: (there dozens of such takedowns each year.) https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/app-removal-request...

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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post #119

Methinks this won’t be the last politically-motivated removal from Apple’s App Store; the more apps they remove then the more they weaken their own arguments about how a locked-in walled garden is in consumer interests.

Apple removed a lot of apps from the store in order to stay present in Russia. Just business

The big tech companies bent the knee (or, complied with local policies and laws) to Russia, China, Europe, etc already to do business over there, it's nothing particularly new but we are fully aware that Russia and China are not free countries, and Europe has stricter consumer / data protection laws (so it's less free for companies than the US).

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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post #267

Exhibit A on why sideloading must be allowed and why Europe is right on this

Yet even there Apple still require apps be notarised, and presumably that signature could be revoked.

Yep that needs to go as well

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

#327

Back in 2011, Apple removed apps that crowdsourced warnings about DUI checkpoints. It remains Apple's policy today. According to Grok, "In March 2011, four Democratic senators—Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), and Tom Udall (D-N.M.)—sent letters to Apple, Google, and Research in Motion (BlackBerry's parent company) urging the removal of such apps […]" So, we have precedent wher…

Why is Waze allowed since it let's you report speed traps? Probably because it doesn't technically advertise it as such, just "hey something requiring police presence is around". ICEBlock should rebrand as a generic "police activity" app and have a category "other" that everyone understands is ICE but isn't labelled as such.

> Why is Waze allowed since it let's you report speed traps?

Nominally the purpose of speed enforcement is to reduce vehicle speeds, which Waze notifications achieve.

Waze - at least in my country - did remove COVID checkpoints during lockdowns, so they don't allow all reports.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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I keep wondering how all of this ICE stuff will eventually play out. Number of illegal emigrants in the USA is estimated to be between 11-20 millions. How much does it cost to send ICE team after a single emigrant? Then holding this emigrant in custody, then costs of deportation to the country of origin. This looks like another enterprise like "war on terror" that costed trillions, hasn't given anything USA, but lack…

It doesn't matter whether it's effective. This is all about riling up emotions, propaganda, winning (or preventing) the next election. Actual effect is barely relevant. Brown-skinned people aren't the enemy team - they're the ball.
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