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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by crazygringo »

zmgsabst wrote: post #239
crazygringo wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing requires you to get upset about showing up in the background of someone's photo either. As far as I can tell, you're the one being antisocial because you're trying to make demands on what people do with their photos just because you happened to be in the frame. And it's not like they're trying to sell the photos or anything. And fines aren't some kind of innocent thing. If you don't pay the fines, the police…

You’re the one trying to include people in your photos without their consent. Everyone should be allowed to enjoy public spaces without you imposing on them for your activities — and that includes you taking photos. Nothing about their desire not to be photographed requires that you not take photographs — just that if you do, without their permission and with identifiable features showing, you’ll have to take a few s…

> You’re the one trying to include people in your photos without their consent.

You don't think people just happen to be in the background?

> Everyone should be allowed to enjoy public spaces without you imposing on them for your activities — and that includes you taking photos.

No, they shouldn't. It's a balance. When people play frisbee, that's "imposing" on me too, because it's not easy for me to put a blanket down in the middle of their game. Should they be fined too? I don't think so. I think I can just live with the inconvenience of walking 30 more seconds.

And I don't even know what you're talking about with blurring people's faces being so easy. My camera app doesn't do that. And even if it did, manually clicking on every single face in all 40 photos from the park that don't belong to my friends and family? No thanks. People can live with their faces in the background online, just like I can live with people playing frisbee where I'd rather be sitting.

I mean, what's next -- I'm not allowed to quote things people say in public and attribute it to them? I'm not allowed to say so-and-so was in this public park in a blog post? You don't have privacy in public places, because they're public.

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Post by TehCorwiz »

prmoustache wrote: post #313
jen729w wrote: post #11

I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on? Who's to say how much of you I have in the shot? Do you feature? Did you flash by? Are you blurred? Recognisable? I was shooting video of a car park exit last year. (I was trying to prove to the shopping centre owners that it was dangerous.) Mundane footage. Some lady drives out in he…

>I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on? Not every thing has to be recorded. It is like all those runners and cyclists who log and share all their runs/rides on Strava without even taking the time to figure out if it really serves a purpose other than a vain attention seeking.

This reminds me of that time secret US military bases were identified from serviceman's social fitness data?

https://www.wired.com/story/strava-heat-map-military-bases-f...

Honestly, the older I get the more I cherish that I grew up in a time before the compulsion to post literally everything.

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Post by ambicapter »

carlosjobim wrote: post #311
bluecheese452 wrote: post #299

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This is one of the weirdest takes I have ever heard.

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> It seems to be that there's a very strange crowd hanging out on Hacker News, who are not aware of very basic social rules.

This is a hilarious example of pot calling the kettle black.

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Post by HotHotLava »

crazygringo wrote: post #14

The answer seems pretty simple. Ask your teammates not to take videos, or find a different group or a different hobby. But since they genuinely enjoy posting the videos, and there's nothing wrong with that, you're probably the one who's going to have move on. You're entitled to not want videos of you taken in public places showing up online. But you're not entitled to getting that outcome.

If the problem starts to become big enough, I'd expect airsoft venues to offer special streaming or non-streaming times, depending on which group is bigger. Similar to how Saunas offer special clothed or women-only days.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by TehCorwiz »

WmWsjA6B29B4nfk wrote: post #320
blindriver wrote: post #203

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You can use AI to blur anyone that doesn't give permission. You can't use the excuse of "it's too much work!" It should be the law that you can't indiscriminately video everyone for your own financial gain.

Blur is boring, but swapping faces or other recognizable features to something similar but AI-generated sounds cool.

Sounds like the central idea of the "scramble suit" from A Scanner Darkly.

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Post by hedora »

Extropy_ wrote: post #308

It's clear that "privacy " in public spaces requires a fair bit of entitlement, why can't we all just love one another and let it go? What harm comes from being in someone's cool AirSoft video? Is it just a matter of principle that bothers you or something deeper?

For one thing, the video might have objectionable content edited into it.

For instance, one video could be filmed by a genocidal maga nutjob, and a second could be a documentary about how PLA doesn’t biodegrade, made by a woke LGBTQ+ immigrant with a working understanding of chemistry, physics and biology.

Almost 100% of the US would be upset to know they supported the production of at least one of those videos.

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Post by i_am_jl »

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #214
RajT88 wrote: post #160

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Agree. I went to a family gathering recently, and my wife's cousin was walking around live streaming. People were pissed once they figured out that private conversations were uploading live to the internet. The same guy did similar when his mom was on her death bed. Jesus Christ.

> People were pissed once they figured out that private conversations were uploading love to the internet. Audio is different from video. This is technically illegal, as consent is explicitly required in the law for audio recording.

Really?

What jurisdiction has that rule? Are you sure you're not conflating simple audio recording with a recording of audio telecommunications?

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by Tade0 »

hedora wrote: post #319
Tade0 wrote: post #247

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There's also the option of having a detailed image of a penis on your clothing so that any sort of social media app will R-rate a video featuring you.

I wonder if this works if you use pictures of Disney characters instead (to generate copyright strikes, or mandatory relicensing fees). If the two tactics don’t work separately, would they work when combined?

I'm embarrassed I didn't think of Disney characters first.

I would suggest Pokémon (fighting monsters after all), but apparently Nintendo lost its edge, considering that recent ICE debacle.

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Post by OJFord »

weinzierl wrote: post #205
eterm wrote: post #29

I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here. I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't. I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with…

It is primarily a cultural one. You won't find many countries with the "well, if you don’t want to be in photos published online, don’t be in public spaces" opinion outside the anglo-saxon world. The UK is a special place because culturally it belongs to the anglo-saxon sphere but legally it inherited the strict EU personality rights.

> The UK is a special place because culturally it belongs to the anglo-saxon sphere

I hear US culture is fairly dominant in the USA, too?

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