Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem with "Hanlon's Razor" is that everything can be explained by incompetence by making suitable assumptions. It outright denies the possibility of malice and pretends as if malice is rare. Basically, a call to always give the benefit of the doubt to every person or participant's moral character without any analysis whatsoever of their track record. Robert Hanlon himself doesn't seem to be notable in any area…
That's because actual malice IS rare. Corporations are not filled with evil people, but people make perfectly rational, normal decisions based on their incentives that result in the emergent phenomenon of perceived malicious actions. Even Hitler's actions can be traced through a perfectly understandable, although not morally condone-able, chain of events. I truly believe that he did not want to just kill people and c…
Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit
321–327 of 327 posts
Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit
#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
It wasn't controversial, but this is literally the textbook Manufacturing Consent model. The small number of people in positions of power at the network are either overtly aligned with the president that he just talked bad about, or want to stay or get on the president's good side. He doesn't even need to pick up the phone or post anything on social media, they know what they need to do.
I think most commenters are missing that a local broadcaster monopoly used their own freedom of association to drop the show The FCC and Trump merely dogpiled on this For Disney, they need to court the broadcaster monopoly as a key stakeholder to their revenue, this is all private sector and not a constitutional issue But when Disney is getting kicked and then an expensive fight with the government looms while their…
[dead]
Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit
#323Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I’m pretty stunned that there was actually momentum enough to take him off the air. Very little was needed. The U.S. president had already ominously threatened Kimmel and other late night hosts the day after Colbert was canceled, weeks before the shooting. I thought Kimmel was hilarious; but as they say, there’s no accounting for taste. The most ridiculous thing about this is that the world doesn’t cleave neatly in…
Of all the takes on his motivations I've seen the most on point comes from an Australian of Robinson's generation .. Death by shitpost: Why modern media is so ill-equiped to diagnose Tyler Robinson https://www.crikey.com.au/2025/09/19/tyler-robinson-alleged-... https://archive.md/Lil0U#selection-941.0-941.80 Watching the US media struggling to cleave this into either left OR right as if the world is binary is, as you…
There's just absolutely no doubt that Tyler Robinson is a deranged leftist. He was not apolitical. None of the evidence contradicts the fact that he is a leftist. Much of the evidence contradicts the protrayal of him as a right-winger.
Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit
#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There’s a relatively narrow rule which prohibits fcc licensed stations from knowing broadcasting false information if it has the possibility of creating civil unrest. Oh wow, I didn't realize Fox News wasn't FCC-licensed.
> fcc licensed stations Think your local K[3 letter] west of the Mississippi, W[3 letter] east of the Mississippi*. Not "Showtime" or "HBO" or "Cartoon Network" or "CNN" or "Fox News" or "MSNBC". That's why the affiliates started pulling it, because their license is what's on the line, not ABC/Disney directly. *: Except for KDKA, KYW, WFAA, WBAP, WOAI, WDAY, and WNAX.
Thanks for the info! I was being snarky but I actually did misunderstand. Good to know the facts.
Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit
#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
That isn't the same and you know it. Kimmel made no direct comment about what the shooter was aligned with, only about what the right wing sphere was attempting to frame them as being. Anyone with a moderate grasp of English should be able to tell the difference.
>That isn't the same and you know it. Kimmel made no direct comment about what the shooter was aligned with, only about what the right wing sphere was attempting to frame them as being. Anyone with a moderate grasp of English should be able to tell the difference. You're falling into the "trap." Which is that even though you're correct, the way it's being framed is having you defend Kimmel WRT what he did say rather…
I was focused on that one specific argument. I agree that he shouldn't have been taken off the air by the FCC regardless of what he said (unless he explicitly encourages violent action against an individual or group of people be taken, ie illegal speech).
Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit
#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
>That isn't the same and you know it. Kimmel made no direct comment about what the shooter was aligned with, only about what the right wing sphere was attempting to frame them as being. Anyone with a moderate grasp of English should be able to tell the difference. You're falling into the "trap." Which is that even though you're correct, the way it's being framed is having you defend Kimmel WRT what he did say rather…
I was focused on that one specific argument. I agree that he shouldn't have been taken off the air by the FCC regardless of what he said (unless he explicitly encourages violent action against an individual or group of people be taken, ie illegal speech).
>I was focused on that one specific argument. I agree that he shouldn't have been taken off the air by the FCC regardless of what he said (unless he explicitly encourages violent action against an individual or group of people be taken, ie illegal speech).
I get that. I wasn't attacking you even a little. Yours was a reasonable and cogent argument.
I'm just pointing out that care should be taken with those who aren't operating in good faith. Because such folks will throw your words back in your face without regard for context or nuance.
Because they care nothing for the truth, just for their own feeling of rightness and will to power whether that be political power or just "pwning the libs."
Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit
#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Not when it comes to broadcasting and FCC. They control the frequencies/channels allocated so they have some control about the speech there. Where did you get your law degree? Email your ConLaw professor and ask them about it. Because there's hundreds of years of precedent protecting political speech, whether true or not, regardless of the platform (including broadcast media). This is a blatant attempt to silence po…
> This is a blatant attempt to silence political speech the current regime doesn't like -- it was literally "cancel this guy or we'll make things hard on you." If they thought it was so easy to defend and so obvious why did they buckle so quickly? > They didn't even try to couch it in the terms you're using to defend this entirely authoritarian attempt to chill free speech What did they couch it as?