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Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by micw »

ainiriand wrote: post #188
wpm wrote: post #15

I can sympathize, but this was always the end deal for cloud SaaS apps. Give em a taste, get em hooked, get years of institutional knowledge and process embedded in the app, refuse to let them export it, and crank the price up. It's not only guys named Larry who are lawnmowers. Don't stick your hand in. *Own* your shit. Be suspicious of anyone who tries to convince you not to. If it's "easy" it might come back to bit…

Seriously, 40 bucks a month gets you a great server at Hetzner then you can have mattermost there and many other office utilities.

I prefer netcup for my private stuff. Similar pricing and performance like hetzner root servers but their "root servers" are fully virtualized, so you get the hardware and storage/raid management included.

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lordnacho wrote: post #316

What are people putting on their chat that makes them beholden to Slack? To me, the team chat app is like a terminal: it shows lines of text, but I don't expect to be able to find anything in the far future. A bit like a real-life conversation, once it's happened it turns into a vague memory. A full transcript is not that interesting. I thought maybe integrations, but those tend to be webhooks that display an alert.…

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Post by danieldisu »

lordnacho wrote: post #316

What are people putting on their chat that makes them beholden to Slack? To me, the team chat app is like a terminal: it shows lines of text, but I don't expect to be able to find anything in the far future. A bit like a real-life conversation, once it's happened it turns into a vague memory. A full transcript is not that interesting. I thought maybe integrations, but those tend to be webhooks that display an alert.…

I spend around 30%, if not more of my work time on Slack (collaborating with others, solving customer issues, searching, documenting)

I want that experience to be good, and not using a subpar tool like (Teams, IRC etc)

As a rule of thumb, I want to use the best tool available for the job, IntelliJ for the IDE, the best coding model (whatever that is at the time), the best Video call tool, the best monitor, the best keyboard etc

Although best is usually subjective, in some of this cases what is "best" is objectively clear, in some cases the gap between the best and the next one is small in others is huge. In the case of communication tools I think the difference is huge.

Is this needed to do my work? nope It makes working more pleasant? definitely yes

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Post by reddalo »

lordnacho wrote: post #316

What are people putting on their chat that makes them beholden to Slack? To me, the team chat app is like a terminal: it shows lines of text, but I don't expect to be able to find anything in the far future. A bit like a real-life conversation, once it's happened it turns into a vague memory. A full transcript is not that interesting. I thought maybe integrations, but those tend to be webhooks that display an alert.…

> I don't expect to be able to find anything in the far future

Tell that to project maintainers switching from old-school good forums to chat apps such as Discord...

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Post by bell-cot »

kragen wrote: post #125

Slack's business model has always been that you give them all your most critical data and they sell you access to it. This is basically the business model of the traditional kind of ransomware, before people got better at making backups. You probably should expect large bill increases over time from ransomware-as-a-service companies like Slack. Not all of them—people are capable of behaving decently—but probably the…

> You probably should expect large bill increases over time [...] Not all of them—people are capable of behaving decently—but probably [...]

Sooner or later, expect any decent ones to be bought out, by orgs determined to "unlock value" (or whatever the current PE-speak for fully exploiting ransomware is).

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