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ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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The left wing cancel culture era was stupid, annoying, and wrong, and this upcoming right wing era is bound to be much more stupid, annoying, and wrong.

re: your edit - perhaps people just think you're wrong because you're drawing false equivalences? No, no, it's everyone else that is wrong =)

There was no equivalency. That’s the bogeyman people conjured in their heads. I clarified a couple words to save those people from their anxious imaginations.

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https://xkcd.com/1357/

Except the FCC literally threatened ABC over this

Read the comic again, your right to free speech has nothing to do with your privilege of using the public airwaves. The FCC chairs' threat to ABC is about the later, not about arresting executives or Kimmel like one would expect if you read the comic then your comment.

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Wow, Kimmel getting canceled wasn’t on my 2025 bingo card.

The pedantic correction is important in this case: "cancellation" is a private action between citizens, this is "censorship", which is done at the behest of the government. The former can be arguably but reasonably understood as a market finding a balance between two opposing arguments, both of which have a first amendment right (i.e. I don't have to repeat others' words if I don't want to, even if I'm doing it out of self interest).

The government has no such right. Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech.

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The right is simply good at PR. People forget that they invented cancel culture. Dixie Chicks anyone?

> The right is simply good at PR One of the defining characteristics of the right is not placing any value on logical consistency. Being a hypocrite will not lose you any support with them.

> Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect

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so far it seems the kid is friendly to trans, and loves guns, which fits neither lefty or maga labels. rushing to conclusion seems peak american idiocracy

Not sure we can confidently state how the shooter feels about firearms one way or the other at this time. As of right now, we know the rifle used in the murder was an x/years_old family heirloom that was given to the suspect as a gift but the police have not shared anything substantive beyond those details. We are likely to hear more about the shooters position on firearms at a more granular scale at trial as prosecu…

Accurately shooting at a distance suggests active practice rather than passive indifference wrt firearms.

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Heartily agree, but the 1st Amendment is supposed to protect you from FCC commissioners, and presidents and vice presidents restraining your speech, and that certainly looks like what happened here.

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Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Idk should he be allowed to peddle unhelpful, unsubstantiated conspiracy theories?

Shouldn't most of Fox News be off the air then? And most podcasts, left or right?

Fox news was rightfully sued.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Voting_Systems_v._Fox...

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Kimmel didn’t even criticise Kirk. He’s a mainstream TV comedian and nothing he said “turned up the heat”. The reality is very simple: Nexstar wants federal approval for a merger. They know engaging in this censorship increases the likelihood of their merger being approved. So you’re exactly as jaded as you should be, just with the wrong target.

Nah, reality is even simpler than your conspiracy. These late night guys are money losers and they are looking for a reason to drop them. The fact that they nightly insult 80 million potential viewers with their arrogant and unneeded leftist opinions is bad for business. It doesn’t matter how Jimmy and his leftist writer feel, that’s their business they should keep out of the job. They need to maximize shareholder va…

If that were true they’d just shelve the show. It’s entirely within their power to do so and always has been. They don’t need an excuse.

Out of the two, “company wants to win favor with Trump for a merger” is actually the simpler theory.

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Keep in mind that Kimmel has been hinting about retiring for a couple years now, his contract was up in the air, the "late night television show" category is evaporating (if there's still even a Tonight Show in 10 years, it'll be purely for nostalgia), and this sends Kimmel out in a blaze of glory. I think it's too easy to sort of anthropomorphize these kinds of conflicts --- Kimmel's show has a large staff, and he's…

While the reasons you list reduce the cost to ABC for cancelling Kimmel, it is no less outrageous and alarming that the current administration forced Kimmel out because of his criticism of the government.

Maher, like the Dixie Chicks and Garofalo, criticized a deeply popular war (regardless of what you think of it) and were ostensibly cancelled pre-cancellation era. The government didn't issue a statement through a right-wing podcast stating that the network better toe the line or get it's affiliate license revoked.

You are right, this has happened before. This is far more like the purges of the red scare. People were just (perhaps naively) hoping society had progressed from where we were ~70 years ago.

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