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Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Can't each of these companies with IDE integrations slurp up the network traffic and distill Anthropic's models? If you can listen to billions of tokens a day, you can basically capture all the magic.

That is not how training works…

That's how model distillation works.

DeepSeek is the most notable case, but it's been used lots.

And the foundation model companies are scraping and exfiltrating each others' data.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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The irony of this, is that Microsoft was trying to push CoPilot everywhere, however eventually Apple, Google and JetBrains have their own AI integrations, taking CoPilot out of the loop. Slowly the AI craziness at Microsoft is taking the similar shape, of going all in at the begining and then losing to the competition, that they also had with Web (IE), mobile (Windows CE/Pocket PC/WP 7/WP 8/UWP), the BUILD sessions t…

CoPilot isn't anything Microsoft is trying to sell outside of their own products. And with GitHub Copilot there is no "copilot" model to choose, you can choose between Anthropic, OpenAI and Google models. Sure UWP never caught on, but you know why? Win32, which by the way is also Microsoft, was way to popular and more flexible. Devs weren't going to re-write their apps to UWP in order to support phones.

People were writing to UWP. There were hundreds of UWP apps that got cancelled and abandoned when Microsoft ditched their Windows Phone once Nadella got in. He kill Windows Phone, he killed native Edge (Chakra JS) and a lot of other stuff to focus fully on Cloud and then AI.

Before that ex-Microsoft guy was responsible for killing Nokia OS/Meego too in favor of Windows Phone - which got abandoned. What a train-wreck of errors leading to the mobile phone duopoly today.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Anecdotally: Azure is the Teams of cloud services - nobody uses it voluntarily or because it's technically the best solution. They use it because the corporation mandates it.

I’ve used Meet, Slack, Zoom and Teams extensively. Teams beats the others by miles in my opinion.

I used to hate Teams but they seem to have fixed it for me.

It works decently enough in web, mobile and desktop.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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"Taking Copilot out of the loop" if you ignore the massive ecosystems of Github, Visual Studio, and Visual Studio Code.

Different CoPilot product. Typical Microsoft naming confusion.

There's another copilot?

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Still shocked Apple has not created thier own LLM, they have bought so many AI companies and have a rich talent pool and money so what's stopping them ?

Maybe they figure it’s just going to be hot swappable models and they’d rather save the 10s of billions on training for a commodified service.

But what about data privacy? These commodified services slurp all user data [1].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45062683

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Anecdotally: Azure is the Teams of cloud services - nobody uses it voluntarily or because it's technically the best solution. They use it because the corporation mandates it.

I’ve used Meet, Slack, Zoom and Teams extensively. Teams beats the others by miles in my opinion.

Well... Slack feels like they have one person working on it dev wise, I havent used Meet in a while, but if its still a in-browser only thing, yikes, and Zoom... that is some legacy feeling app, I dont know how anyone can love Zoom. They bought out KeyBase and didn't even build a better platform. KeyBase was top tier, I'm still sour that the dev team basically stopped maintaining KeyBase after Zoom bought them out.

Teams took the best bits from Skype and whatever that other service Microsoft had for businesses and their phones and started over basically.

I still have pet peeves about Teams (like why dont the 'Teams' within Teams have proper group chats like Slack would, its ridiculous!) but it could be way worse. After years of screensharing hell I can finally move the stupid top bar out of my way when trying to hit 'Debug' within Visual Studio at least.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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> At some point Visual Studio seemed to be a legacy app only used for Windows-specific app development. Then they released VSCode and boom! I'm not sure what the point is. Visual Studio is still Windows-only; VS Code is not related to it in any shape or form, the name is deliberately misleading.

Indeed I heard directly from someone involved that the VS Code team understood the reputation of Visual Studio and wanted to call the product “Code” instead, and the compromise with marketing leadership was the the binary was called “code”.

Visual studio is good though. I wish I could it use it instead of code or Xcode

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Neovim, emacs?

Amusing that Emacs that came out of the MIT AI lab, and heavily uses Lisp, a language that used to be en vogue for AI research.

You are word associating. The ideas in each part of that chain are unrelated.
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