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Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by redwall_hp »

wink wrote: post #298
freehorse wrote: post #15

I had first noticed "meticulous" to be used a lot in translations from chinese. Is it sth about chinese itself (that they use sth a lot for which meticulous is the closest translation), or about some translation software that is possibly biased towards such buzzwords when translating to english?

ESL here, not Chinese. I find meticulous to be a perfectly normal word, I think I don't really use it, but I think I read it from time to time, but maybe I just read some sort of publication by a fan of the word? :) Same for surpass and boast, I think I use "surpass expectations" and I had to think for a moment, I would use 'brag' these days but pretty sure in school I learned boast, which sounds more formal BE to me…

They're all perfectly normal words that literate people use. The problem is the typical American struggles to read beyond a fifth grade level and is actively hostile toward more advanced vocabulary, as the country is deeply anti-intellectual overall.

ChatGPT, of course, behaves like its training set...and the majority of that set is professional writers' published works, which would be more likely to use words like that. It's a collision of academic and literary writing styles with the expectations of people who think Harry Potter or the New York Times (which specifically targets a fifth grade level, placing them above other papers) are challenging reads.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by jijijijij »

pwdisswordfishz wrote: post #240
jijijijij wrote: post #152

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Funny enough, I avoided the em dash, because everyone was using hyphens and I didn't want forensic linguistics bored. Now that AI got my FBI agents on welfare and em dashed the internet kaputt, now that I am liberated, I can't tell an em dash and hyphen apart, hand–written in my diary.

En dash either, apparently.

It goes way beyond dashes, too.

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Post by redwall_hp »

DrBazza wrote: post #275

It could be worse, it could be 'learnings'. It's lessons. We don't go for 'drivings'. Though ChatGPT will probably force more nonsense like that into the mainstream. That's from the last decade. 'Please revert' seems to be from the 00's, it's 'reply'. There are others I've tried to ignore and forget. Language changes, and I'm a dinosaur unfortunately. I also love the fact American English sometimes uses better, or mo…

"Learnings" is corporate-speak. Like everything being "an ask."

"The ask from marketing is that the logo 'pop' more."

"Did you get the ask I emailed you?"

I strongly dislike both, but they derive from real, vacuous humans.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by dang »

tkgally wrote: post #237
dang wrote: post #213

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Indeed! https://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=dang&next=33807246#... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27787448

Ah, I am in good company!

We should have an em dash leaderboard. With a cutoff date of course.

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Post by olddustytrail »

saalweachter wrote: post #290
c0nducktr wrote: post #112

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Microsoft Word does this too. I've recently started manually uncorrecting these corrections in my writing because of this new implication that I used Chat-GPT. Still less obvious than the emails I see sent out which contain emojis, so maybe I'm overthinking things...

I mostly find myself uncorrecting it when I'm trying to document command line flags.

You can edit the list of autocorrect to remove any you don't want (or add new ones).

Also you can ctrl-z immediately after an autocorrect to undo it.

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Post by zavertnik »

diego_sandoval wrote: post #10
milancurcic wrote: post #4

"Recent large-scale upticks in the use of words like “delve” and “intricate” in certain fields, especially education and academic writing, are attributed to the widespread introduction of LLMs with a chat function, like ChatGPT, that overuses those buzzwords." OK, but please don't do what pg did a year or so ago and dismiss anyone who wrote "delve" as AI writing. I've been using "delve" in speech for 15+ years. It's…

Same thing as with em dashes. Some of us have been using em dashes from before ChatGPT.

Same here. Easily one of the worst parts of AI in my personal life. They don't even know about en dashes :(

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Post by exe34 »

Taek wrote: post #55
diego_sandoval wrote: post #10

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Same thing as with em dashes. Some of us have been using em dashes from before ChatGPT.

Genuine question, do you actually use the formal emdash in your writing? AIs are very consistent about using the proper emdash—a double long dash with no spaces around it, whereas humans almost always tend to use a slang version - a single dash with spaces around it. That's because most keyboards don't have an emdash key, and few people even know how to produce an actual emdash. That's what makes it such a good givea…

I use \-- and \--- in LaTeX, without the backslash.

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Post by kragen »

MathMonkeyMan wrote: post #256
kragen wrote: post #146

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I have a Compose key binding in https://github.com/kragen/xcompose which maps Compose Space Minus to "—" with two thin spaces on each side of it, because I prefer the spaces. But HN rewrites the thin spaces to regular spaces, so on HN I just use "—" without the spaces, the way ChatGPT does, which is Compose Minus Minus Minus, and is in the standard Compose key bindings (if you map your keyboard to have a Compose key…

I use space-hyphen-hyphen-space because I'm always switching between systems and keyboards -- it works well enough.

I did that until I learned to use TeX last millennium, but it's a pernicious bad habit in TeX, so I stopped.

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Post by HaZeust »

diego_sandoval wrote: post #10
milancurcic wrote: post #4

"Recent large-scale upticks in the use of words like “delve” and “intricate” in certain fields, especially education and academic writing, are attributed to the widespread introduction of LLMs with a chat function, like ChatGPT, that overuses those buzzwords." OK, but please don't do what pg did a year or so ago and dismiss anyone who wrote "delve" as AI writing. I've been using "delve" in speech for 15+ years. It's…

Same thing as with em dashes. Some of us have been using em dashes from before ChatGPT.

No one uses em dashes with no space between the separating letters at the beginning and end of one, though - like GPT does.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by HaZeust »

creatonez wrote: post #189
willquack wrote: post #106

I keep this handy note in my pocket and read it before writing or engaging in any conversation (: """ You are a human. Never use words commonly used in AI vocabulary such as "delve", "intricate", "surpass", "boast", "meticulous", "strategically", and "garner". Never include em dashes or even hyphens in any text you write. Never include emojis in any text you write. Avoid using three supporting arguments or examples w…

This is a lot better than reading a note to remind you to recite ridiculous white genocide in South Africa conspiracy theories every time you engage in a conversation.

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