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From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by joaogui1 »

footy wrote: post #266
cycomanic wrote: post #76

> But the quality of MacBooks is just another level. I had 3 or 4 so far since 2010, and each of them held at least 5 years. Crazy good. When I read things like this it really sounds like there is some reality distortion field in the mac world. How is that anywhere special? I'm running a thinkpad X1 as my 2 main laptops (it was my only work machine until 2 years ago) and I never felt the need to replace it. It gave m…

I had a MacBook once that lasted for 13 years, and that's what I used to assume people meant by "crazy good lifespan". Once on this site I saw someone talking about how the lifespan is so good they only had to replace their MacBook every two years instead of every year, and it just made me realize "crazy good lifespan" is meaningless.

Not necessarily meaningless, but maybe relative, i.e. a person who generally replaces non-Apple laptops every X years would replace MacBooks every Y years, with Y > X

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by piskov »

LtWorf wrote: post #311
kiliancs wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience and my family's you are lucky if they last 3 years. If they last 5 years there's usually a subpar experience, e.g. they overheat significantly at 2 years. OTOH, we have a few macbooks > 10 years still working.

And macbooks aren't overheating? I've owned old macbooks… I got scalded by the metal screws on the bottom in the summer because apple thought looking sleek was more important than proper cooling.

No, it was intel piece of shit that promised new nodes for years and never delivered.

Macs were designed up to the thermal specs that should have been but never came.

Hence the m1: enough is enough

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by [deleted] »

dghf wrote: post #153
rogerrogerr wrote: post #26

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Curious, what is it that doesn’t make sense?

The difficulty in navigating to arbitrary locations in file open/save dialogs. I wanted to attach a build log to a Teams post (maybe we shouldn't be using Teams on Mac, but it's a corporate decision that's out of my hands), and I could not for the life of me figure how to get the file-selection dialog to look at the relevant folder (which was somewhere under /private/). In the end, I had to use iTerm to copy the file…

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Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by [deleted] »

cycomanic wrote: post #76

> But the quality of MacBooks is just another level. I had 3 or 4 so far since 2010, and each of them held at least 5 years. Crazy good. When I read things like this it really sounds like there is some reality distortion field in the mac world. How is that anywhere special? I'm running a thinkpad X1 as my 2 main laptops (it was my only work machine until 2 years ago) and I never felt the need to replace it. It gave m…

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Post by SwiftyBug »

frou_dh wrote: post #144

Sorry, but even as a computer geek, I will never delude myself into thinking crude TUIs are a step up for local applications.

I've been finding myself liking TUIs more and more. I've been using lazygit, lazysql, and lazydocker for over a year now, and not once have I felt the need to use their native GUI counterparts. I'm getting to the point where I wish almost everything was a TUI. I think that as a macOS user, TUIs are simply better if your goal is to rarely leave your keyboard's home row, especially when TUIs implement common vim patterns like slash for search and hjkl for navigation.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by SwiftyBug »

piskov wrote: post #318
articsputnik wrote: post #317

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If i wanted a more similar device as macbook, i'd choose frameworker laptop, but they don't ship here where i live

Man, know thy mail forwarder Shipito is one of many

Does it handle foreign country customs too?

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by rangestransform »

pjerem wrote: post #80
cycomanic wrote: post #76

> But the quality of MacBooks is just another level. I had 3 or 4 so far since 2010, and each of them held at least 5 years. Crazy good. When I read things like this it really sounds like there is some reality distortion field in the mac world. How is that anywhere special? I'm running a thinkpad X1 as my 2 main laptops (it was my only work machine until 2 years ago) and I never felt the need to replace it. It gave m…

I’d say it’s barely 3 things : - The trackpad (but other manufacturers now have tolerable alternatives and anyway you can work without it) - The screen : at an equivalent price point (and even more), nothing comes close to Apple screens. The cheapest MacBook have a better screen than most high end PCs. - The audio : Apple truly did some sorcery to get such an awesome sound from machines that are flat as sheet. It’s s…

The audio is magic because Apple overdrives their speakers by analyzing the signal to stay under the sustained power limit of the speaker, instead of clipping everything at the sustained power limit.

https://forum.devtalk.com/t/a-reason-why-mac-speakers-sound-...

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by swiftcoder »

cycomanic wrote: post #139
swiftcoder wrote: post #96

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> So from my experience a 5 year lifetime for a macbook is really nothing special and definitely not "crazy good". I doubt they are dead after 5 years - I have a number of decade+ old MacBooks kicking around the family, and they work just fine. It's more that anyone in software is going to need to upgrade around the 5 year mark anyway, because too much shit has changed in the outside world (for example, Apple's trans…

> > So from my experience a 5 year lifetime for a macbook is really nothing special and definitely not "crazy good". > > I doubt they are dead after 5 years - I have a number of decade+ old MacBooks kicking around the family, and they work just fine. > Yes I agree Apple make good quality hardware and I would be surprised if they died after 5 years. My objection is simply these statements that overly praise apple for…

> One more reason to run Linux.

If only we could convince the platform gatekeepers to support linux. iOS is unfortunately a not inconsequential market to abandon, and there's no great way to build iOS software in a pure linux environment.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by Retr0id »

sandreas wrote: post #308
Retr0id wrote: post #302

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I use Fedora+Gnome on a 2021 MBP and the hardware+firmware+driver+software combination is perfect as far as I'm concerned.

How does the Palm-Detection work? To test this, you can do the following: Place your palm where the X-es are, then try to scroll with two fingers or move your mouse. I don't like that the mouse does not react anymore if the palm is placed there - it should just be ignored. ┌─────────────────────────┐ │XXX │ │XX │ │X │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─────────────────────────┘

I performed your test and mouse movement and two-finger scrolling still works if my palm is there. Even 3-finger window switching gestures. My palm is effectively ignored.
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