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So define one. A race.
A group of people that have lived long enough in relative isolation that they became unique, distinguished and separate from other races.
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There’s more genetic variation within any so-called racial group than between groups, so race obviously has no genetic justification. That's not semantics. Yes it's real, but for social, not genetic reasons.
>has no genetic justification That is comically retarded. Like do you have any understanding of the words you are using ? If there's no genetic justification, how would it be possible to trivially determine someone's race just from their DNA ?
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There’s more genetic variation within any so-called racial group than between groups, so race obviously has no genetic justification. That's not semantics. Yes it's real, but for social, not genetic reasons.
>has no genetic justification That is comically retarded. Like do you have any understanding of the words you are using ? If there's no genetic justification, how would it be possible to trivially determine someone's race just from their DNA ?
Genetic ancestry is determined by correlation with geographic origins and population. In other words, where a set of genetic markers are highly concentrated. It says nothing about race.
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Their difference is about the same. If you think this is a brag you must have also missed me saying the scores are meaningless in my view. The questions are great fun though. A better way to get at intelligence metrics would be to test over a number of years in many ways, again for humans.
The accuracy of the tests is known to drop above the ~140 range. Not a fan of IQ, but not convinced this means anything either.
Really need to use a CDN before you get #1 on HN
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My son struggled quite a bit learning to read. He was very slow to do so, and it frustrated him quite a lot. But interestingly, once he did get it, he became a voracious reader, and he's never since scored below 95th percentile on reading tests. So his developmental dyslexia did not carry over into general dyslexia. One of the interesting things about nvld, at least in his case, is that you would never know he had a…
To add a bit more, I didn't really read until later, around 8, but then read at a fairly quick and passionate amount for my age. People thought I'd dodged my family curse but later around 10 it was shown I was quite behind at school. My dyslexia was described as "a defect in one aspect of intelligence", which for most kids is reading comprehension, but for me it showed in a lack of decent short term memory. As you sa…
The more interesting link (to me) is this one: https://www.trackingai.org/political-test They run each model through the political leaning quiz. Spoiler alert: They all fall into the Left/Liberal box. Even Grok. Which I guess I already knew but still find interesting.
The political leaning quiz is extremely biased though. Its basically all questions like "should stuff benefits humans or corporations", which doesn't represent what both sides actually thinks.
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I hear you are invested in this line of thought, and that is okay. I just don’t agree with the analysis, and not with the labeling.
It doesn't rely on work by Eugenicists?
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"The Bell Curve" is, let's say, highly controversial and not a good introduction into the topic. Its claim that genetics are the main predictor of IQ, which was very weakly supported at the time, has been completely and undeniably refuted by science in the thirty years since it's publication.
> has been completely and undeniably refuted by science in the thirty years since it's publication. This is literally the exact opposite.
The only thing IQ tests measure is the ability to score well at an IQ test.
Just look at what MENSA has produced:
buffoons.
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Really? If not genetics then what is it? Just random??
IQ is largely genetic, even if some people claim otherwise. The evidence for this is now overwhelming: even when different ethnic groups grow up in very similar conditions in the same country, the PISA (which correlates r=0.9 with IQ) scores measured vary greatly. For example, among second-generation children in Germany, there are significant differences in PISA scores. Polish children achieve similar or even better…
You never went to your father of mother to ask them to explain a concept you struggled with in class?
Now imagine your parents didn't get an education and couldn't help you. Where would you be now?