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Yes. Some brains react to some stimulants differently. That's the whole reason ADHD can be treated with Adderall.
This isn't true, it affects everyone the same way. But you could say the optimal dosage is different for different people. I think people just like saying this because they're afraid stimulants will get banned otherwise.
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All abuse is bad. Some abuses are worse than others. What abuse are they seeing with adderall? What I hear in casual conversations is that people are abusing it to learn things. Is that what the DEA was seeing too?
Yes, it is most commonly used a study drug. It is a strong stimulant (more like cocaine than like coffee) and potentially addictive so potentially dangerous and requires medical supervision. it is a formulation of amphetamine.
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I literally did the thing you’re not supposed to do. my psych kept giving me everything by Adderall. So I went to one of those online doctors and got Adderall through her. Then I just told my psychiatrist that I have Adderall prescription and she took it over. For the record, she’s actually really reasonable and I like her but very conservative about the stimulants. Which when I finally got them were a revelation. Me…
I think of this stuff when folks say “trust the science!”. It’s all trust the science until that science conflicts with some broader agenda of a federal agency or a doctor’s whims about risks to their license. Medicine really has a bad problem with groupthink. To get the best healthcare you have to both trust physicians and be critical of them. Then the DEA seems to consider stimulants as a moral failing. I’ve been o…
The end result is that i tends to make the public regard science as something that they are told by experts, so then it becomes a matter of which experts they trust. This ultimately undermines trust in science because some expert opinions turn out to be wrong.
We really need better science communication, which will not happen when the media want sensation, politicians want spin, and the public believe either the media or ChatGPT or some random nutcase on Tiktok.
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The DEA put Adderall on its list of the most abused medication, and limits production of it and investigates doctors who prescribe too much of it. This is a response to the problems with the abuse of legal opiates a decade ago- the DEA now takes potential abuse of legal drugs much more seriously and adderall (an amphetamine- it's a cousin of meth) is at a high risk of abuse. Your psychiatrist is trying to deal with t…
> the DEA now takes potential abuse of legal drugs much more seriously and adderall (an amphetamine- it's a cousin of meth) is at a high risk of abuse. I know that I process Adderall differently having ADHD, but I still struggle to see how it's used recreationally. I took it somewhat consistently for over a year for ADHD treatment until I missed an appointment and couldn't get around to scheduling another before my p…
- Adderall keeps you awake. Some people use that to be awake for very long periods of time. Long drives, marathons, etc.
- Adderall can make boring tasks seem engaging, so it can be used, for example, to help a student study. Combining that with no need to sleep that night, can become a bit of an unfair advantage.
- Adderall can cause a high, even though I've only ever experienced that with pure dextroamphetamine. For me it caused everything to feel warm and pleasurable somehow, the first couple weeks I was taking it.
Now I feel nothing except the wakefulness, although when I stop taking it for a while and then start taking it again, sometimes I will spontaneously do every chore that's been building up over the past months in a single day. That's just how it goes for me apparently.
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The DEA put Adderall on its list of the most abused medication, and limits production of it and investigates doctors who prescribe too much of it. This is a response to the problems with the abuse of legal opiates a decade ago- the DEA now takes potential abuse of legal drugs much more seriously and adderall (an amphetamine- it's a cousin of meth) is at a high risk of abuse. Your psychiatrist is trying to deal with t…
> the DEA now takes potential abuse of legal drugs much more seriously and adderall (an amphetamine- it's a cousin of meth) is at a high risk of abuse. I know that I process Adderall differently having ADHD, but I still struggle to see how it's used recreationally. I took it somewhat consistently for over a year for ADHD treatment until I missed an appointment and couldn't get around to scheduling another before my p…
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Yes. Some brains react to some stimulants differently. That's the whole reason ADHD can be treated with Adderall.
This isn't true, it affects everyone the same way. But you could say the optimal dosage is different for different people. I think people just like saying this because they're afraid stimulants will get banned otherwise.
Adderall causes me to be essentially unable to move or function. When I tried it, I was very hungry but I couldn't get myself out of bed to get food so I had to sleep it off! Pure dextroamphetamine works a treat for me though.
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The DEA put Adderall on its list of the most abused medication, and limits production of it and investigates doctors who prescribe too much of it. This is a response to the problems with the abuse of legal opiates a decade ago- the DEA now takes potential abuse of legal drugs much more seriously and adderall (an amphetamine- it's a cousin of meth) is at a high risk of abuse. Your psychiatrist is trying to deal with t…
You're right, and the situation is a harm to those who need adderall. Besides, adderall is not nearly as dangerous as Opiods. Whoopty-doo if it's diet Coke. This is why, even though I don't like Adderall's side effects for my ADHD and don't use it often, I keep the prescription, because fuck the government trying to squeeze pharmacists and doctors.
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> the DEA now takes potential abuse of legal drugs much more seriously and adderall (an amphetamine- it's a cousin of meth) is at a high risk of abuse. I know that I process Adderall differently having ADHD, but I still struggle to see how it's used recreationally. I took it somewhat consistently for over a year for ADHD treatment until I missed an appointment and couldn't get around to scheduling another before my p…
> I still struggle to see how it's used recreationally. - Adderall keeps you awake. Some people use that to be awake for very long periods of time. Long drives, marathons, etc. - Adderall can make boring tasks seem engaging, so it can be used, for example, to help a student study. Combining that with no need to sleep that night, can become a bit of an unfair advantage. - Adderall can cause a high, even though I've on…
For many (not all) ADHD'ers, amphetamine or caffeine makes them sleepy.
> Adderall can make boring tasks seem engaging
This is true
> so it can be used, for example, to help a student study ... can become a bit of an unfair advantage
Unfair? This isn't sports. Nobody is being cheated by a study-enhancing drug.
> Adderall can cause a high, even though I've only ever experienced that with pure dextroamphetamine. For me it caused everything to feel warm and pleasurable somehow, the first couple weeks I was taking it.
Interesting. FYI ADHD people feel none of that. If anything, the opposite: on stimulants ADHD people feel relaxed and normal, bringing them down from hyperactivity and allowing them to focus on their life.
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I think of this stuff when folks say “trust the science!”. It’s all trust the science until that science conflicts with some broader agenda of a federal agency or a doctor’s whims about risks to their license. Medicine really has a bad problem with groupthink. To get the best healthcare you have to both trust physicians and be critical of them. Then the DEA seems to consider stimulants as a moral failing. I’ve been o…
I think "trust the science" is a stupid slogan anyway. Not all science is equally well proven. Who represents the "science" when scientific opinion i divided? Even when there is a consensus there are plenty of examples when a strong consensus has been wrong. The end result is that i tends to make the public regard science as something that they are told by experts, so then it becomes a matter of which experts they tr…
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I literally did the thing you’re not supposed to do. my psych kept giving me everything by Adderall. So I went to one of those online doctors and got Adderall through her. Then I just told my psychiatrist that I have Adderall prescription and she took it over. For the record, she’s actually really reasonable and I like her but very conservative about the stimulants. Which when I finally got them were a revelation. Me…
Which online doctor? I've had the same frustrating experience with "real" psychiatrists but didn't know you could arbitrage the prescription like that.