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Post by nandomrumber »

aredox wrote: post #230
nandomrumber wrote: post #224

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These are the facts: Australian social security budget: about $120 billion Australian NDIS budget: about $52 billion Number of working Australians: 14.6 million Number of welfare recipients in Australia: about 5.4 million, or about the entire population of Melbourne. Number of NDIS recipients in Australia: about 661,000 That’s about $78,500 per NDIS recipient. Democracy can last only up to that point the majority rea…

>Democracy can last only up to that point the majority realise they can vote themselves largess from the public purse. You wish people would go back to forming loving families, but you believe people will naturally leave others to die in poverty and sickness once their eyes open. Which one is it, nandomrumber?

Where did I say that?

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Post by lotsofpulp »

Loughla wrote: post #280
lotsofpulp wrote: post #245

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The new tax bill, which benefits asset owners (wealthy), older people, and the beneficiaries of the wealthy. When you have a population age histogram that is flattening and eventually an upside down triangle, you need some way of extracting labor from the young and giving it to the old (the chosen ones who can afford it) to maintain the socioeconomic hierarchy. The young without inheritances won’t ever have it as goo…

I don't think it really has a whole lot to do with socioeconomic hierarchy; I think that's just a happy accident. Old people vote. Old people vote in midterms and odd timed elections. Therefore, old people decide the candidates. Any politician would be smart to court them as a voting bloc. As for the benefits for the wealthy; that's just the same old bullshit in a new protectionist wrapper. Get my friends and family…

Old people voting in their own interests at the expense of young people is them trying to maintain their higher position in the socioeconomic hierarchy. There is a secondary component related to skin tone and ancestry as well.

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Post by xerox13ster »

southernplaces7 wrote: post #320
aisenik wrote: post #316

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Feel free to point me to a single instance of Trump administration genocide and i'll happily reconsider my thoughts. I'm no fan of this government, but hyperbole does nobody any good.

The progressively worsening attacks on the ability of trans people to exist in daily life.

Depending on how you define the Ten Stages of Genocide, we for sure have crossed the 3rd stage of genocide with all the state level anti trans bills and Trumps executive orders, and they’ve also engaged in stages 4 and 6. They’re not pressing on the brake, there’s a lead block on the gas pedal and they have repeatedly professed to wanting to erase us from public life. Trump released a campaign video about it in Feb/March of 2023.

https://www.genocidewatch.com/tenstages

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Post by ychnd »

southernplaces7 wrote: post #320
aisenik wrote: post #316

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Feel free to point me to a single instance of Trump administration genocide and i'll happily reconsider my thoughts. I'm no fan of this government, but hyperbole does nobody any good.

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Post by theossuary »

assbuttbuttass wrote: post #301
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #283

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Huh, makes me wonder about claims that it’s a reaction to his daughter coming out as trans. That happened publicly in 2020, according to wikipedia, but it probably came up in private beforehand. The timing is close enough that it seems likely. It’s interesting to note since I wasn’t really familiar with the timeline of his villain arc.

No one becomes transphobic when a family member comes out as trans, it's usually the opposite

Am I misreading this it are you claiming the family of trans people becoming more transphobic when they find out not common? Because it's extremely common. There's a reason the joke exists: Don't like in-laws? Date a trans person and you won't have to worry about them!

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Post by aisenik »

southernplaces7 wrote: post #320
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Feel free to point me to a single instance of Trump administration genocide and i'll happily reconsider my thoughts. I'm no fan of this government, but hyperbole does nobody any good.

It is essential to understand the concepts involved:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remigration

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

And then you can take your pick of media outlets. The Office Of Remigration is happening, they aren't hiding it. For example:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/29/politics/rubio-lays-out-detai...

This is just one clear-cut example of the administration prosecuting genocide. There are others, there's plenty of boogeymen.

Assuming you disagree that this is proof of genocide-in-progress, please explain to me how an official policy of ethnic cleansing is not prosecuting genocide. It will be illustrative.

In parting, a digestif, courtesy of the prominent far-right ideologue who's made public claims of a lurid sexual relationship with Trump:

https://xcancel.com/LauraLoomer/status/1939831588902109629#m

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Post by computerthings »

berdario wrote: post #293
fnordian_slip wrote: post #222

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The sole reason Germany annexed Czechoslovakia was was that there were atrocities being committed against the Sudeten[0]. He even made a speech at the Sportpalast in Berlin in which he stated that the Sudetenland was "the last territorial demand I have to make in Europe". So all's fine, and we don't have to worry about Germany. 0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesson_of_Munich

One big difference, is that the opposition to nazi Germany was relatively weak before the start of WW2: After Reginald Drax's mission to Moscow failed, the Soviet Union ended up signing its famous non-aggression pact. Italy was allied, Spain was neutral/aligned. Turkiye was neutral. Poland could only count on UK and France[0]. Compare to now, where the NATO military bloc is massive. No one would dare risking a milita…

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Post by Buttons840 »

hollerith wrote: post #253
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It looks like cell phone exports are about 30 billion dollars, which is 1% of the 3 trillion dollars mentioned earlier. I'm surprised it's so low. (I'm open to corrections on these numbers.)

Here's my estimate, taken mostly from figures from Apple's 2024 annual report (as reported by Gemini Flash). Apple's total worldwide revenue for fiscal year 2024 was $391.035 billion. The Americas Segment (which includes the US) represented $167.05 billion of that, leaving $224 billion for the rest of the world. Apple reports that their cost of goods sold was $210.352 billion, leaving 180.68 billion as so-called "gro…

Your argument is that Apple exports are 3% of exports then? Did I understand correctly?

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Post by HelloMcFly »

dmix wrote: post #288
HelloMcFly wrote: post #273

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> Because they know that the vast majority of people advocating for climate change to be a high priority issue is because they want to use that to slow down capitalism Is this really what you think? That the people concerned about climate change are really just interested in changing economic policy? The real motives of environmentalists is to erode capitalism? Respectfully: that's nuts. > Let's get rich enough so ev…

> The real motives of environmentalists is to erode capitalism? Respectfully: that's nuts. Is that really controversial? Reducing consumption and crippling new economic developments like mining/pipelines/logging/large construction projects etc has always been a huge part of environmentalist movement. Even here in Canada whose economy depends heavily on oil, lumber, and mines...One of the biggest responses to US aggre…

Is it really controversial to say that most environmentalists want to protect ecosystems, not destroy capitalism? No, it's not controversial, it's just wrong. Must protecting ecosystems mean a hatred for capitalism? No.

You’re taking effects (slower pipelines, fewer logging permits) and making those effects the activists’ "true" goal. In reality, many of the people campaigning for stronger environmental safeguards are business-friendly too, such as 1000s of economists (and many Nobel laureates) have backed a carbon tax because it uses market forces to cut emissions.

Calling for long-term accounting of environmental costs isn’t anti-capitalist.

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Post by southernplaces7 »

aisenik wrote: post #326
southernplaces7 wrote: post #320

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Feel free to point me to a single instance of Trump administration genocide and i'll happily reconsider my thoughts. I'm no fan of this government, but hyperbole does nobody any good.

It is essential to understand the concepts involved: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remigration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide And then you can take your pick of media outlets. The Office Of Remigration is happening, they aren't hiding it. For example: https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/29/politics/rubio-lays-out-detai... This is just one clear-cut example of the adminis…

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